Frank DiMante of B'nai Brith : A crude tool for teaching students to hate Israel
Canadians may not know it, but they are being duped. The Canadian Islamic Congress (CIC), Palestine House and the Canadian Arab Federation have joined together to distort truth and justice in an effort to promote a vehemently anti-Israel agenda of hate to young Canadians. All three have sponsored an inflammatory essay contest for students aged 17-27 that will reward (with cash) writing that perpetuates the myth of what contest organizers call "the ethnic cleansing of Palestine"....
I'm happy to see Franky taking a shot at the genuine threat of Islamofascism for a change. The contest is repugnant and the Islamists deserve to be exposed in public.
I just find it odd that he favours the use of a "crude tool" such as the CHRC to target Basement Neo-Nazis or the equally small-potato's "Pro-Palestinian" website "Peace, Earth and Justice News" yet hasn't filed a formal HRC complaint against the sponsors of this essay contest. One would think that Frank & B'nai Brith would want to employ their biggest gun in this fight.
Is the unwillingness to take on the CIC and the CAF head-on via the CHRC due to the increasingly successful political influence these groups enjoy within the Liberal & NDP parties? Parties that "officially" support Section 13 (1), and have traditionally been the political home to many in the Jewish community?
Mohamed Elmasry of the CIC & Khaled Mouammar of the CAF like B'nai Brith support section 13(1). Is B'nai Brith afraid to take on a very vocal and increasingly well connected opponent in a battle of the Section 13(1) Supporters? - Oh delicious irony;)
Why no showdown at the CHRC corral? If they're preaching hate as you say Frank then get on that complaint. What's good for the Nazis is surely good for the Islamofascists. Is all hate not equal or is this a new form of gentleman's agreement?
What have you got to lose Mr. DiMante? Gun shy?
Friday, March 28, 2008
Frank DiMante & B'nai Brith: Why no Showdown at the CHRC Corral?
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Presumably any use of section 13 would be against content in some of the essays themselves. How would you take a complaint to the CHRC without the essays even having been written yet? Are you suggesting a punishment for words not even uttered yet?
As always BCL your presumptions are incorrect. The "Hate" DiMante refers to quite specifically in his opening paragraph is the concept of the essay itself and its theme - "The etnic cleansing of Palestine". But given that the CHRC is given to prosecuting "Thought Crime" why not "pre-essay" crime?
Clearly not. What he is concerned about is the kind of thinking this contest encourages: that it will drive students to "pre packaged" positions. He's worried about the material in the essays themselves. I'm not a lawyer, but I can't see how the announcement of such a contest would run afoul of section 13.
BCF writes:
"But given that the CHRC is given to prosecuting "Thought Crime" why not "pre-essay" crime?"
This is not coherent.
BCL, you're absolutely right you aren't a lawyer, you are however a partisan Liberal who like your compatriots will grasp at any semantic straw in the vain hope it will advance your agenda.
And when did anyone ever have to be a lawyer to consider a statement actionable under section 13(1). The rule of law does not apply within the the confines of the Kangaroo court known as the CHRC. Re-read DiMantes opening paragraph.
Your comment about coherence indicates a) you lack reading comprehension skills and b)you have no sense of humour;)
Big City Lib does not recognize his own petard as he's hoist on it.
The whole kerfuffle about the HRCs is that they are prosecuting "pre-crimes" or potential crimes. The wording of Section 13-1 allows them to punish people whose utterances may at some future unspecified date expose some individual with a favored group identity to "hatred or contempt".
Certainly an essay contest with the inflammatory topic "apartheid against Palestinians" qualifies in every way. Israeli Jews are an identifiable group and will likely be hated or receive contempt on the basis of publicity about this contest even before a single essay is published and certainly afterwards as Mr. Dimant correctly perceives.
Therefore Blazing's question needs to be answered by Mr. Dimant and his group: why the double standard? Why an op-ed in the Post instead of a complaint to the Human Rights Commission? What is it about Muslim antisemitism that makes him pull his punches?
(Incidentally, I don't support Mr. Dimant's desire to suppress free speech in any of his opponents, Muslim or non-Muslim. But his double standard deserves exposure and needs elucidation).
I believe that Frank DiMante is afraid of the outcome from a head on clash with The CIC and CAF at the CHRC. This would expose the "divisisness" that dares not speak its name within the Liberal Party- the Salon Style anti-semitism of the anti-zionists. To put it bluntly he is afraid they'd lose.
"...he is afraid they'd lose."
They already have.
BCF wrote: the Salon Style anti-semitism of the anti-zionists. To put it bluntly he is afraid they'd lose.
It's pityful and disgusting what some liberal supporters' support, the genocide of Israel under the guise of supporting those oh so suffering innocent Palestinians. Pre-Crime and thought crime is okay to use against us Cons and Christians but don't you dare touch those Islamic Terrorist organizations like Hammas, may pea soup rain upon them, what has Canada become. It's okay to march through the streets and praise communism but I should be ashamed because I'm a christian. The leftards in this country are truely plucking ugly on the inside. Their morals and ethics are so scewed they can't see the hatred they hurl at us and Israel.
As a follower of Yoga, I believe in Karma. The left are going to sow what they have reaped on society. Will we Conservatives be forced to pay for their lack of morals and ethics again? YES.
The Illiberal Jewish organizations will never take on Political Islam, why I'm not sure but they both have similar goals don't they? Both want to be perceived as the Superior Religion, us unwashed Christians will be busy reading our bibles in old defunked gas station waiting for Warman and his ilk to hunt us down under Section 13 of the HRC act.
Let them fight it out, hopefully this will expose the HRCs for what they will become, an arm of the government for Jews and Muslims to fight over supremacy. Persecuting We Christians is nothing more than a job perk for the HRC employees sorta like a free company car.
Yes, I do understand that the majority of us would consider it an abdication of our morals to try to file an HRC complaint here, but...
Should one be filed, and another, and another...and should they all be summarily dismissed (as Regina Butt and her co-religionists found their complaint dismissed), would this not be clear and irrefutable evidence which could be used to expose the hyppocrisy of the 'selective morality' in the HRCs?
No, I'm not suggesting the adoption of 'baiting' that the HRC employees are so versed in. Just that, perhpaps, if there was a body of evidence which clearly demonstrated the internal bias of the HRC's, their practices would be exposed to the majority of apolitical Candians, to the point where they could no longer ignore the issue...
WOULD it be worth it?
Xanth that is an interesting point. What would happen if we filed a complaint? It may be worth it to do so, after all no cost is involved.
Rose nothing would please me more at this point but to see B'Nai Brith and the Islamists go head to head. Under any other circumstances I would root against the Islamists but in this case I want em both to lose;)
In their incredible eagerness to defend Section 13.1 of the absurd Human Rights Act, the top CJC management recently wrote a National Post article attacking the views of a long serving Mossad veteran for pointing out that they were in bed with radical islamists as regards their defense of the Act. Most sane political observers throughout the world would certainly agree that no other organization is as informed as the Mossad as to what dangers face the worldwide Jewish Community and what threats against that community are really significant. It is simply preposterous to argue this point with the Mossad, the brilliant to successor to Ergun, Hagana, and Stern all rolled into one! When the CJC picks such an argument with an informed Mossad veteran, they simply look ridiculous, as indeed they are!
Agreed Haliburton, they will go to extrodinary lengths to protect their CHRC franchise.
BCF,
You are quite right and a franchise it is. They do not want any of their own sites examined perhaps because their undercover instigators are posting there as well.
Consider the Jewish Defence Leaque of Canada and how they have never been the subject of a CHRC investigation:
One such tidbit the Muslims must love and I quote from the JDL Canada site:
"Consider the following. A short while ago, a Jewish Group in
Toronto, invited to their hall in Toronto the leader of the Muslim
Canadian Congress Terek Farah. In his speech, Terek Farah compared
Moshe Feiglin to the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. Rabbi Marshal Reiss, who was present, did not object.
Forgotten are the actions of
the Muslim Brotherhood, such as, cooking the baby of their enemies and having the baby served on a bed of rice to the parents or drinking the blood.
There is more. The peace now gang labels the Jews that live in
Hebron, a cancer. And major Jewish Groups continue to give support to the peace now gang. Our leadership is full of people that are not close to anything that this parsha demands.
We have a corrupt leadership that sells out fellow Jews, in exchange for smiles from apologists for Jew-haters.
The recent Likud elections should serve as a wake up call. Bibi Netanyahu has made it clear that he wants to destroy the Jewish
Leadership Movement that Moshe Feiglin directs.
The false left, which
is really an anti Jewish State movement, has offered to help Bibi
Netanyahu go to war against Moshe Feiglin."
Yes, this is the peace loving movement of Rabbi Kahane deemed a 'terrorist' one in the SA but under the radar in Canada I guess.
Sure sounds like a hate message to me.
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