Packed house for Levant, Shaidle, Mansur talk in London
Update: Natasha has photos.
The venue is listed at 600, the house is packed.
Here's Kathy....
Tonight’s question is: are Human Rights Commissions useful or obsolete? Something can’t be called “obsolete” if it was never “useful” in the first place.
It is commonplace to insist that the HRCs were a good idea at the time, but they’ve veered off course. Some present at the creation claim they never imagined the HRCs could have evolved into what they’ve become.
I’d argue that they were never a good idea in the first place, and that any precocious 12 year old who’d accidentally watched Truffaut’s Fahrenheit 451 on “Saturday Night At The Movies” could have foreseen what they would turn into.
The original mandate of the HRCs was to deal with discrimination in employment and accommodation.
A really embarrassing female politician asked Mark Steyn about one famous example of employment discrimination, when he recently testified at Queen’s Park about the HRCs and Section 13. She brought up the hoary old chestnut about signs in store windows that read NO IRISH NEED APPLY.
As Mark Steyn explained to this poor woman, because he’d read about it first on my blog, the real trouble with No Irish Need Apply signs is that they never existed.
Richard Jensen of the University of Illinois studied the issue and wrote:
QUOTE:
The fact that Irish American vividly "remember" NINA signs is a curious historical puzzle. There are no contemporary or retrospective accounts of a specific sign at a specific location. No particular business enterprise is named as a culprit. No historian, archivist, or museum curator has ever located one; no photograph or drawing exists.
The complete absence of evidence suggests that probably zero such signs were seen at commercial establishments, shops, factories, stores, hotels, railroads, union halls, hiring halls, personnel offices, labor recruiters, anywhere in America, at any time.
(...) However, the professor continues:
Irish Americans all have heard about these signs—and remember elderly relatives insisting they existed. The late Tip O'Neill remembered the signs from his youth in Boston in 1920s; Senator Ted Kennedy reported the most recent sighting, telling the Senate during a civil rights debate that he saw the signs when growing up.
END QUOTE
(And we all know how reliable Senator Kennedy’s accounts of his personal experiences can be.)
I’d be happy to speculate later on about what all that says about Irish psychology, but for now, let’s concentrate on the fact that the politician who confronted Mark Steyn with that would-be zinger merely showed herself to be terribly concerned about a hundred year old case of job discrimination that was completely make believe.
But then again, the Left draws most of its motivating energy from imaginary problems, like global warming, DDT, backalley coathanger abortions, and the chronic boredome of American housewives in 1950s suburbia. The Left is very concerned about something they like to call “social justice”, which I define as the stubborn application of unworkable solutions to imaginary problems.
Like Spinal Tap’s second drummer, who famously “choked to death on someone ELSE’s vomit,” Canadian leftists have always resented their neighbors in the United States for having a romantic, large scale Civil Rights Movement during the 60s and 70s.
So the HRCs became the Canadian Left’s state-sponsored version of the Woolworth’s lunch counter sit ins but, without the stirring LIFE magazine photos and crappy folk music soundtrack.
Going against that tide, in the US, Barry Goldwater bravely voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act on principle.
As one author explained:
QUOTE
Most of the twenty-seven senators who voted against the Civil Rights Act were Southern segregationists. Goldwater was not a segregationist, nor was he any kind of racist. He was, in fact, a lifelong opponent of racial discrimination. He desegegrated his family’s department store back in the 1940s; he was a member of the N.A.A.C.P.
But Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act because he believed, as a conservative, that the federal government did not have the power to compel states to conform to its idea of racial equality, or to dictate to individuals whom they must associate with.
END QUOTE
Such “Love One Another Or Else” laws, from the Civil Rights Act to our own Section 13, inevitably bend under the pressure that other, higher, law: the Law of Unintended Consequences.
The fallout ranges from forced busing and white flight to those everyday resentments that simmer just below the surface as people cluster themselves into victim identity groups and complain about each other in whispers.
Human Rights Commissions were supposed to HELP the multicultural causes of tolerance and diversity. Instead, they pit groups against each other as they vie for favored victim status and the pitiful spoils that such status imparts.
Today, gay Canadians outnumber Muslim Canadians; when that balance shifts, and it will for obvious reasons, it will be interesting to see which side Canada’s liberal establishment decides to take, or is obliged to.
Again, the goal of the HRCs in particular and the Multicultural project in general were doomed from the start, because they contain the seeds of their own destruction, like a faulty gene in its DNA. You can have either tolerance OR diversity, but after a certain population mix is reached, you can’t have both.
The problem with the HRCs is most commonly presented as an issue of freedom of speech. However, I’d like to raise two additional aspects that don’t get as much play.
First, the HRCs are engaged in class warfare. The majority of “hate speech” cases are brought by highly educated, highly privileged white liberals -- against less educated, working class, blue collar “reactionary” whites, who insist on speaking to each other about topics like immigration, using old fashioned, politically incorrect language.
Therefore, the enforcement of Section 13 is an expensive exercise in state sponsored snobbery, in which people’s own hard earned tax dollars are used by their “betters” to scold and shame them. Worse, the process silences people who already feel linguistically, politically and educationally disenfranchised, angry and powerless. We often compare the tribunals to 1984, but to me they’re more like Pygmalion.
As British writer, Brendan O’Neill wrote:
QUOTE
Today’s Top-down ‘anti-racism’ has nothing whatsoever to do with ensuring equality of opportunity for all); rather it is about policing people’s behaviour and etiquette, especially amongst the lower classes. Accusations of ‘racism’ are no longer about indicting someone for their views on ethnic minorities but rather have become a snobbish judgment on their lack of breeding. ‘Racist’ has largely become code for ‘underclass’: uneducated, uncouth, thick, fat, ‘not one of us’.
Thus, the impact of official ‘anti-racism’ is not to make society more free and equal, but more authoritarian and censorious.
END QUOTE
So last year we all heard about the African American city councilor in the US who declared that the phrase “devils food cake” was racist.
And so it came to pass that Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner were murdered in Mississippi in 1964 so that almost 50 years later, a black man could not only vote but get elected to public office, only to feel compelled to comdemn the folkloric names assigned to chocolate pastries.
In Canada, meanwhile, a politician has been fighting a five year battle with the HRCs for using “racist” ink colours on a pamphlet.
The other problem rarely discussed in terms of the HRCs is that besides being an affront to freedom of speech, many cases violate the right to private property.
But conveniently enough, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms does NOT recognize the right to private property anyhow. Thank you, Ed Broadbent.
Canadians therefore had to endure the spectacle of, for example, a man claiming the “human right” to smoke marijuana on the premises of someone else’s restaurant. The difference between that and insisting on being served at a Woolworth’s lunch counter is only a matter of degree. Again, Barry Goldwater warned about this sort of thing but of course he was just an “insane” fascist right winger...
Then we have an imam with no capital investment or connection to Ezra’s magazine demanding the right to be published in its pages, presumably spelling mistakes and all.
And then the attempted hijacking of Canada’s oldest magazine by a gang of young Muslims, with Mark Steyn and Ken Whyte manning the drink cart.
I was pleasantly surprised that Ken Whyte and his crew fought back because, well, they’re Canadians. To continue the metaphor, I’ve often said that had United 93 been an Air Canada flight, the passengers would have held the cockpit door open for the terrorists -- then said “sorry” when they stepped on their feet.
Ezra likes to say that the HRCs and Section 13 are “unCanadian.” I respectfully disagree. I can’t think of anything more Canadian. They perfectly embody the Trudeaupian, Centennial celebration Canada I was born into.
I recently read Gerry Nicholl’s book Loyal to the Core, which I recommend highly, and was reminded of the many asinine rules against political speech that the NCC fought to overturn back in the 90s. Incidentally, some of the judges’ reasoning for retaining those laws make today’s HRC “judges” sound like Clarence Thomas.
Because the HRCs embody everything that is wrong with 21st century Canadian establishment culture, the only way to truly defeat them is by defying political correctness at every opportunity in our everyday lives. There will be no point fighting to abolish the HRCs and Section 13 if we are still too timid to say “Merry Christmas” at our place of work, or challenge the latest polticially correct terminology when our children bring it home from school. We complain about stupid, far away bureaucrats, but we would never have reached this point in the first place had the average Canadian not been too frightened, or unprincipled, or preoccupied, to allow them to flourish.

I just arrived home from the speak. It was a packed house. No protesters, and no hecklers. That is a whack of people who are going to tell a whack of other people who are going to help dismantle the hrc's.
I didn't get to speak to Kathy, but tell her for me she did very well. The crowd loved her.
The London ___ press didn't show up, unless they were playing shy. It was asked if they were in attendance and no one stood up. Kathy made a joke about Richmond too busy parking Warmen's bike to attend.
There was more people in attendance than most political events in London, and the only newspaper in town doesn't have the gonads to send anyone out to cover it.
A suggestion was made by someone in the audience that donations to the conservative party, who count on grassroot dollars, to with hold our donations until they stand up to the plate and take out the hrc's.
I thought that was a real good idea.
I hope someone is taping the talk?
bravo!
I live an ocean or two away now, but still keep close tabs on this issue. I really wish I could have been there!
Mike of the London Fog
Terrific speech. And since, as Kathy rightly pointed out, there seems to be a distinct lack of folk tunes to accompany out "right" movement, here's one--to the tune of that 60s chestnut "Little Boxes":
Little thought cops, little thought cops,
Little thought cops on the HRCs.
Little thought cops, little thought cops
And they all think just the same.
There’s a tall one and a short one
And a fat one and a skinny one
And they all get put on HRCs
Where they all think just the same.
They hold hearings,
They make rulings,
And they punish miscreants
Who have said something impolite
And who may not think just the same.
They are censors; we’re defenceless,
And they’re riding roughshod over us.
Know what’s best for us--
That’s what’s stressed to us
So we’ll all think just the same.
They’re so earnest when they spurn us
And tell us to put a sock in it.
Their advice is: “Opt for niceness
So we’ll all think just the same.”
It’s so chilling that we’re willing
To bow down and kowtow to them.
Where’s our gumption when th’assumption
Is we must think just the same?
And the people in this country
Aren’t free like we used to be
‘Cause of thought cops and of HRCs
Who insist we think just the same.
There’s a tall one and a short one
And a fat one and a skinny one
And they all get put on HRCs
‘Cause they all think just the same.
Must have been great.
And a nice comment from Ezra over at his blog:
"Kathy Shaidle of Five Feet of Fury went first. I like her blog a lot, but I found her speaking style even more compelling -- a touch more gentle, the humour a touch more subtle, and jam-packed full of facts. I knew she was a good writer, but I didn't know that she was a great speaker. I had high expectations, but they were exceeded. You can read the transcript of her remarks here."
It was a great night! They were all fantastic.
And Honey Pot was right about London's ONLY newspaper -- they couldn't be bothered to report on the event they tried to prevent with their ransom note smear job. (I read both the print and online editions of the Freeps and could find nothing -- correct me if I'm wrong.)
Of course, editor Paulyanna Berton has been too busy lately gushing about Obama and dreaming of a no-nuke fairyland to assign a reporter to an event of local significance.
There was a time not too many years ago when I would have thought that "you people" were the lunatic fringe. But back then I was more likely to tell people what they wanted to hear than to tell them the truth, even though I thought I was telling the truth.
But, a number of things have happened in the last few years that have awakened me and "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free."
One of them has been seeing the real "lunatic fringe" at the Ontario HRC mercilessly attack a now retired Catholic primary school principal (my sister) for of all things, (shame on her) doing her job and requiring others to do theirs as well.
After attending last night's London shindig, I read Kathy's book last night and this morning, and will start Ezra's presently.
I recently returned from wintering in Arizona and participated in Red Envelope Day, which was a peaceful protest wherein people sent Red envelopes to the White House - 3.25 million in total - to show President Obama that they do not appreciate his stand on abortion.
Did Red Envelope Day change Obama's mind? Probably not, but it got a lot of people off their duffs to get envelopes, write on them, address them and mail them. They had to participate in something bigger than themselves and bigger than bitching and complaining.
To borrow a page from the Red Envelope Day project, I suggest that we could start a White Envelope Day campaign and send empty white envelopes to Prime Minister Harper with words like the following on the back of the envelope.
"This envelope is empty like the minds of the Canadian people will be if the Human Rights Commissions are allowed to continue their persecution of freedom of speech in this country."
Or ... do you think we should just forget it because we might offend someone?
Thanks for posting Kathy's text. Excellent.
So glad it went well.
Deborah
Kathy's speech was almost an extention of her great blog writing style...wit and humor interspersed with fact and quotes and framed in her own objective wisdom...pertinent and entertaining stuff!
I will certainly be quoting her on her statement about neo-liberalism and it's hand maiden "social justice™" being an unworkable solution to non existent problems.
Bravo Kathy...I see the free speecher lecture circuit in your future ;-)
mbrandon8026, I think that is a good idea. We have to do something.
I felt so bad for that man who stood up at the meeting, and stated he was a small business man that has been caught in the cross hairs of the hrc's.
He didn't know where to turn, or how to fight them.
Ezra's answer to him wasn't what any of us were expecting. He basically told him he couldn't, he didn't have the money to do it.
It made the point to me, that I could be that man, or the people sitting on each side of me, behind me or in front of me, could be that man. Ezra made the point that we have to fight them as a Canadian force instead of as individuals.
I am up for it, and will do whatever I can to help.
A great job all round - except for the drips at the London Free Press who wouldn't know a news story if they fell over one.
The amazing thing was that there was an admission charge: 600 people is a big deal, 600 people who all paid $5.00 - huge. No political party during an election charges a nickle.
This story has legs, too bad the MSM are too scared of Lucy and the Jackal to report it.
It is not that the msm is scared of Lucy and the Jackal, it is because they are complicit.
I know the lfp is in helping a man lose his livelyhood because one of their reporters was sleeping with a a community activist who was after an hrc victim's property. The story about it on the London Fog blog.
The lfp did everything in their power to help destroy the old guy
It was bad, real bad.
No doubt the msm is also party to other Canadians being hauled before the hrc's. The power trip they must get from it apparently overrides their conscience.
I will admit I was a leftie, I will admit I drank the Kool-aid and served it up to others. I am ashamed of that, but I did it, and I will admit it.
Kathy is one of my heroes!
Everyone's comments are bang-on!
I was there, too, and it was a terrific night.
Hubby took photos and video; I'll let you know when they're up.
I finagled a poster that the Chapters people had moved aside and Kathy, Ezra and Salim signed it for me. I felt like a teenager at a rock concert (without the ringing ears).
Thanks Jo, Let me know when they're up!
Part 1 is up, BCF.
Bravo Kathy!
One paragraph jumped out of Kathy's speech. She could have added "Leftist Lawyers" and she would have pretty much captured the entire gang of "Marxist Brothers and Sisters"
"First, the HRCs are engaged in class warfare. The majority of “hate speech” cases are brought by highly educated, highly privileged white liberals -- against less educated, working class, blue collar “reactionary” whites, who insist on speaking to each other about topics like immigration, using old fashioned, politically incorrect language.
Therefore, the enforcement of Section 13 is an expensive exercise in state sponsored snobbery, in which citizen’s own hard earned tax dollars are used by their “betters” to scold and shame them. Worse, the process silences people who already feel linguistically, politically and educationally disenfranchised, angry and powerless."
That certainly applies to all the Libel/Slnder and Defamation suits against the Canuck 6 doesn't it!
And in fact, they (via Section 13.1or Libel/Slander Lawfare/SLAPP suits may themselves be commiting criminal acts if the CBC can be trusted:
"CBC News Online | June 2004
The Criminal Code of Canada says a hate crime is committed to intimidate, harm or terrify not only a person, but an entire group of people to which the victim belongs. The victims are targeted for who they are, not because of anything they have done.
Hate crimes involve intimidation, harassment, physical force or threat of physical force against a person, a family or a property."
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