I love the irony but I really don't want to see Section 13 (1) rehabilitated
Even if it means Lucy gets caught in its web. As Ezra reports Richard Warman is being investigated for hate speech by the CHRC.
Now it would be deliciously ironic if Lucy launched a constitutional challenge to Section 13 (1). Prospects are dim that this will ever reach the tribunal stage, however, I do see this as yet another self-inflicted nail in the coffin for the CHRC, this mess is proof that they are a dysfunctional organization beyond reform or redemption.
I can only imagine the conspiracy theories both this and the Hadjis ruling will generate, hell a couple of scenarios suggest themselves as I post. For instance, is this some bizarre effort by the CHRC to make-over its irrevocably tarnished image in the public eye? Or is it a ham-fisted effort to exonerate themselves of the corrupt behavior that has transpired since they decided to appoint themselves Canada's Witch Finder General?
This case may have the potential for the CHRC to both investigate and "magically" clear itself of the numerous irregularites uncovered during the course of Warman v. Lemire; We've seen this sort of behavior before from the CHRC with Jenny's now notorious "Do-Over" of the Moon Report. Were I a betting man I would go with this one. However until we see the particulars we just have to speculate- ain't that fun;)
A tangled web indeed.
It's popcorn time.
Oh indeed it is. I can't help but wonder at what the CHRC's "intent" really is.
I have to admit I'm experiencing a little schadenfreude.
Yes and no for me, it will be interesting to see the contents of specific correspondence contained in CHRC files concerning this matter should a certain lawsuit request them them under rules of discovery.
Yes BCF and all E Mails between the CHRC and DND during this time frame too.
Amazing knowing all this, DND continues to employ "Lucy".
Does anyone remember this 2007- Don Butler article in the Ottawa Citizen and Jackel's comments:
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=7704be24-8e3a-4090-b4f3-a5a4909e1d54&p=1
I have been looking at the ARC site, Kinsella's blog as well as that of BCL and Dawg - and they are very,very quiet = SILENT on the news.
I wonder if Butler, Randy Richmong or Kurt Maiken will be correcting or updating their stories now :)
And well they should be;)
CHRC operatives should be charged with far more serious crimes than this. How about fraud, for starters. Racketeering for another. I'm sure there's something in the Criminal Code that would fit the bill.
Well Louise - I suspect the counter attack will commence on many fronts. Months bak i outlined the various CC sections that could have been breeched - I forget them all now but suspect others have retained them!
The "Orange Fall" so to speak.
Sure it sounds like they are performing a purification ritual. All of a sudden no one in the CHRC thinks of Rich as a friend, no one knew what he was doing, no one helped him, and this crazy-assed guy crossed the line. Now, while Warman may well be guilty under the law and we should not consider due prosecution of the law "scapegoating", I can't help but think the CHRC desperately want a scapegoat as an alternative to admitting the law and their jobs are insane. And people who need a scapegoat have no business as "human rights" czars, but then the whole idea of a human rights "czar" makes your head spin... Let's get back to negotiating our differences locally.
LS from SK, where did you post that CC sections bit?
I agree Tru, I can't help but atrtribute the sinister to any move by the CHRC, especially this non-sense which seems at best self-serving.
Louise - here and at Jay's site. Forget what topic it was though.
Ask BCF to find it - like Jenny's receipts :)
Kinda started with a failure of a Public Servant to take action when criminal activity was occuring and they knew about it.
Clearly with the explosive revelations today that this was ongoing for almost 3 years - Jen, the Deputy and secretary General along with Harvey of the CHRC will have some trouble explaining that away.
Other was "criminal conspiracy' - where two or more people engage in an enterprise to... [insert here]. Poque Mahone, Estate, Mark lV and Jadewarr more than meet the test.
Actually - it may well end up in the laps of/ with the AG and all the Intervenors who heard "tainted testimony" and did NOTHING.
May explain the CHRC absence at the last of the persecutions.
"Failure to Act"?
Only a Public and Criminal Investigation will satisfy the public now.
Louise - fill your boots:
http://www.organized-crime.de/OCDEF1.htm
Couldn't we wait until Lucy has spent a couple hundred grand on his defense before firing them all from the tippiest tippy top mandarin to the lowliest office cleaner's assistant?
Seems only fair, eh?
Ezra's point about this case being pursued -after- Section 13 has been declared unconstitutional by the tribunal is interesting. Are they just f-ing insane incompetents so tangled in their ideological maze that they are now eating their own? Or is this civil service butt-coverage, turbo+nitrous mode?
I'd be willing to watch Lucy piss away $200k just to find out.
Beats me, it is odd and all we can do is speculate but CYA may be it, Occams Razor.
[ BCF: "Oh indeed it is. I can't help but wonder at what the CHRC's "intent" really is." ]
W.C. Fields
But Louise - the term you are looking for as Racketeering - is a USA "RICO" and since B&W apparently went down to the USA to testify/complain etc while "Lucy" was already under investigation could make that kick in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
More fun is that France and Germany really take a dim view of racist and other kinda thingies thus I suppose if a complaint was made to either government - it might get entered into the Interpol database which would not be a plus for DND.
Thanks, LS. I think I remember reading that post of yours, now that you've mentioned it. And yes, racketeering does sound accurate.
Jeeze, does this mean Lucy's a Nazi? I mean when the CHRC investigates people ARC, the Jackal, tw, Dawg et al always suggest there is no presumption of innocence (which there isn't) and that the people under investigation are, well, Nazis.
Now, myself, I have always thought Lucy was an out of control. less than honest, authoritarian crackpot; but I never thought he was an actual Nazi...hmmm have to think about that.
Jeeze, does this mean Lucy's a Nazi? I mean when the CHRC investigates people ARC, the Jackal, tw, Dawg et al always suggest there is no presumption of innocence (which there isn't) and that the people under investigation are, well, Nazis.
Now, myself, I have always thought Lucy was an out of control. less than honest, authoritarian crackpot; but I never thought he was an actual Nazi...hmmm have to think about that.
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