B'nai Brith tells it like it is about the Nazi-Islamist Cabal
Uppitierdate: Please explain the context of meaning as it relates to "Fuck the Jews"
Upperdate: Jay Currie links to the hilarious commentary served up at a "Liberal Party partisans" blog; "anti-zionists" & "liberals" (though it's hard to tell them apart), plus a couple of CJC'ers vie to denounce B'nai Brith and each other - good fun all round.
Verdict: B'nai Brith Wins.
Update: Liberal Party member Omar "Lord Ha Ha" Red Eye accuses B'nai Brith of Promoting "Hate" and having made an "Unholy Alliance with Right Wing Racists". Be sure to ask Omar his thoughts on Tarek Fatah.
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There'll be no Samosa for you Nazi-Islamists nor your Pseudo Leftist Enablers. Right Frankie?
This ad ran in Nov 9th's National Post
After looking at that ad I think they got it right and the P/C idiots around the country are going to have sh!t fits over it.
Yup I will now scower the usual suspects for the expected howls of faux outrage.
Wow, BCF, thanks for posting this!
Nice poster. Pretty much captures my feeling on the matter.
Leftists will now please explain why I've got the wrong impression about Wahabi fascism. Use facts, if you have any.
But the Islamists are the new Jews they will howl and howl and howl...
Truly Fur, I couldn't possibly care less what discomfits these appalling fascist assholes. Let them howl like the coyotes, long and loud.
See, the thing about howlin' coyotes is, it makes it easier to find the little vermin in the dark.
We can seeeee you...
Oh, I forgot to mention your boy Hassan got taken down by a chick.
A really small one.
Cue the Village People:
"Macho macho maaaaan!
I want to be,
A macho man!"
Someone finally got a wake up call from their survival instinct.
Not Bernie.
I am glad they took out this ad. It is brave of them, to say the least.
It is a great start and I hope it works, at least a little bit!
I have been thinking about more ways which might effectively wake the 'left' form their 'slumber': someone - like, someone who'd be listened to - ought to publicize the treatment people who teach the Theory of Evolution get from the Islamofascists: they even put a fatwa out against Pokemon because 'they evolve' - which promotes the blasphemy of the Theory of Evolution!
Pokemon? The Pagan Bastards!
This is good to see.
Dawg will have puppies.
Harry will be back in my sort of good books.
But, and we have to notice this, I fear this ad is likely to provoke feelings of hatred and contempt for a whole protected species. Namely Muslims who, directly or indirectly, support these Islamofascist pigs.
Scramble the CHRC. Find Elmo. Tear Lucy away from his SLAPP suits.
Actually, using the Warman logic, I think I might file a s. 13 against BB and the NP. Sure, I'm not actually a Muslim but I feel their pain and would be delighted to get a few dollars in special compensation.
But the CHRC has already given the Islamists a get outta jail free card Jay. Recall Point de Bascule and the Montreal Imam.
Sadly, it won't make a diff. The multicultists will dismiss it as the ravings of the deranged Right, as happened yesterday morning on John Moore's show on CFRB, while the Ceej and the Lefty Jewstablishment will try to distance itself from the ad and continue with it's "bridge-building" efforts ("twinning" with mosques; "mentoring" Somalis and the rest of it). That said, I applaud the effort to wake Canadians out out their somnolence. Why won't it work? I think T.S. Eliot put it best: "Humankind cannot bear too much reality."
Have to agree with Jay - that ADD is a clear violation of Section 13.1 and since it was placed in an Ontario National newspaper - well Barbara Hall (OHRC) and Jenny (CHRC) and all other HRCs have jurisdiction.
Kinda missed the 1 Million Baha'is that also got slaughtered- but hey anyone can miss 1 million people.
I am offended as to the stereotypes, the link to Nazis and fact it is likely to cause ill feelings, hate and bad actions - incitement to violence.
This will be a test of the whole corrupt system and the apparatchiks they employ.
For Topham - it is a golden opportunity to show that those persecuting him display some of the same charecteristics.
Let us see if "Law is Cool" or the "Sockpuppets" along with Elmo intervene. Will ARC report this?
I can even see the Swastika in many places = illegal in parts of the EU. I so love it.
Re the Section 13 violation--recall that the BB has already run afoul of a provincial equivalent in Manitoba, where it was subjected to a 5-year-long "investigation". The initial complaint--we still don't know who made it--had something to do with someone overhearing a BB-er (David Matas, I believe) making some "slur" about Muslims and extremism at a conference. In other words, something that was far less "in your face" than this ad. We'll see if someone complaints to the CHRC about it and--what'll be even more interesting--if the CHRC decides to pursue it. Should that happen, will the BB then, finally, decide that state censorship and its "human rights" enforcers have to go?
On Toronto radio station CFRB (1010 AM) yesterday morning, on John Moore's morning show, Tarek Fatah commented (and Moore agreed) that the B'nai Brith ad in the National Post was over the top and counter-productive, and would be likely to alienate the great moderate majority of Muslims in Canada. Tarek Fatah, by the way, is very critical of Islamism and is not afraid to call out radical imams, etc. He is not "politically correct."
My initial visceral response to the B'nai Brith ad is to agree with its approach. Why not take an aggressive approach, and tell it like it is?
I still feel that way, but a part of me nags, with the suggestion that an emotionally satisfying approach (the hard hitting B'nair Brith ad) might not actually be an effective approach, from a public relations and advocacy standpoint. Might Tarek Fatah have a point? It certainly seems possible that the overall style and vehemence of the ad, engenders the risk that many readers will be repelled. That people will instantly identify the ad as a "rant", and will be put off by it, no matter how valid the assertions in the ad may be.
How, then, should one attempt to shine a spotlight on that segment of "orthodox" Islam that holds the views that are highlighted in the B'nai Brith ad?
Daniel--I understand, and to a degree agree with, your hesitations. The ad struck me, too, as being a bit over-the-top--not in terms of what it had to say, but how it said it. As someone who's had some experience in communications,I know that a lot of people are likely to recoil from such an "in your face" approach. And there's no disputing that Frank Dimant and the BB aren't the most effective communicators. That said, I don't know if there is another approach here: being more "subtle" sure ain't gonna cut it, either. My conclusion is that, on balance, running the ad was a good thing. It may not wake any Canadians up (those Canadians are unlikely to be receptive to anything that appears in the National Post anyway). It may, however, hammer home the point to people who already know there's a problem, and motivate them to try to do something about it.
Also, I like the idea of people saying "rude" things on our PC/HRC-riddled soil.
Daniel - just my thoughts.
I find the BB ADD offensive. Not that it wasn't time to do so but had the CIC posted such a propaganda blurb - the S*** would really have hit the fan.
If the CJC and the parliamentary committee wants lanquage that bans criticism of Isreal as inherently "anti-semetic" and a potential hate crime - then all spotlights and watch towers should be shut down.
However, if freedom of expression, speech, thought and religion is to be the governing principle - as it should - then bans of any kind should disappear into the dustbin of history.
The Berlin Wall did not fall because of any human rights commission or apparatchik(s) but because there was a growing internal mass that simply overwhelmed the DDR.
This ADD might simply be the start but I doubt it as it is too closely associated with special interest groupds.
Make any sense?
I regard it as a polemic, it is meant to offend and I hope it has shaken at least a few complacent individuals out of their politically correct slumber. The Ft. Hood terrorist action has highlighted how ludicrously dishonest the MSM has become. B'nai Brith is right to scream from the ramparts, especially when much of the MSM and our Political class have abandoned all of us.
Damned if they don't...
Reality is a harsh thing. The problem is that many will read the ad and think BB is unfairly associating Nazism with Radical Islam - when in fact the historical links between the two are clearly documented.
I find the "we must wake from our slumber" bit a little apocolyptic and tacky but hey, I was not consulted.
I simply caannot imagine anyone but a few of you here who don't believe that this ad is over the top. Comparing radical Islam (and yews it is a huge danger) to the murder of 6 million Jews is just so wr4ong in so many ways.
Yews? Oh for cryin out loud Mitka, I know a vehement rivalry exists between the CJC & B'nai Brith but please when it comes to that nobody outdoes Bernie.
Thus spracht mitka: "I simply caannot imagine anyone but a few of you here who don't believe that this ad is over the top."
Pft. That ad is small beer compared to some of the shite I see splashed around yer average Lefty web site.
But yes mitka, it is over the top. Its supposed to be, that's the point of it. Kind of like a crucifix in a bottle of pee.
But yet so much less than lighting up an Army base with an FN 5/7 and a hearty Allah ackbar, don't you think?
Oh yeah, I saw that Fur. Funny that little mitka didn't comment. Oversight, no doubt.
See mitka, this is why we mock you. And why you -deserve- it.
Allah Akbarbarian!
Calling Nazis, well Nazis, is just so darned offensive I may faint.
BB has put the cat of truth among the PC pigeons. It pointed out that there are Muslims who want to kill Jews. In large numbers. Which is true.
The Nazi apologists - and yes, we know who you are - are having puppies. BB was not being helpful. (I note that the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were not terribly helpful - they shot back..rude Jews, rude, rude, rude Jews.)
Our lefty Jewish pals might take a moment to see who lines up on the side of Israel and the Jews. A quick scorecard: if Richard Warman is suing you...you probably are on the side of the Jews and Israel. (I am a notable exception - on the side of Jews and Israel but as yet unserved.)
This fact alone should give the CJC, BB and other organizations pause as they try to tweak s. 13. A lot of what we write in support of Israel might well fall afoul of the nitwits who administer the Canadian Human Rights Act.
As might this ad.
Let's hope some Muzzie is dumb enough to file a s. 13 complaint. Perhaps Elmo "All Israelis over 18 are targets" will take up the cudgel and, with luck, have his useless, pagan, head handed to him.
I'm still thinking maybe this is a fake? Who definitely saw it in print?
It wasn't a fake Kevin, in fact it was a topic of discussion on talk radio in Toronto which is where I initially heard of it, unfortunately I missed the paper that day. BB generally provides a link to the ads it has run on their site, this one has not been posted yet.
Yeah ... it's not on their site, nor is their any press release etc. about a new ad campaign. Their current activities seem to be around remembrance day. It seems way off their usual tone, and the design, frankly, is kind of crap.
Every blogger I've seen who posted this admits they didn't see the ad. They all link to this file. I'm not sure where it originated. Even the talk radio discussion seemed to follow the blog posts rather than an actual published ad. (From what I've read, anyway, I didn't hear it.)
I'm not an expert, but the file format doesn't scream "I scanned this from a newspaper and posted it". It seems like a computer-created file.
Anyway, it could be real. It just smells funny.
I saw it in my copy of the Post, and heard the discussion on the radio.
Friends of mine have also confirmed it appeared in the NP Kevin. While it may not win any awards for graphic design it has served it's purpose, it forced people to think about the issue of Militant Islam outside of their comfortable politically correct perimeters. For some I'm sure those perimeters were reinforced - it's simply much less risky and smugly self-affirming to dismiss BB's ad as a mere rant and of course attempt to link it to the "scare quotes right wing", for others it may have created a crack through which some light may shine through.
Yeah ... it's not on their site, nor is their any press release etc. about a new ad campaign. Their current activities seem to be around remembrance day. It seems way off their usual tone, and the design, frankly, is kind of crap.
Every blogger I've seen who posted this admits they didn't see the ad. They all link to this file. I'm not sure where it originated. Even the talk radio discussion seemed to follow the blog posts rather than an actual published ad. (From what I've read, anyway, I didn't hear it.)
I'm not an expert, but the file format doesn't scream "I scanned this from a newspaper and posted it". It seems like a computer-created file.
Anyway, it could be real. It just smells funny.
I saw it in my copy of the Post, and heard the discussion on the radio.
Sadly, it won't make a diff. The multicultists will dismiss it as the ravings of the deranged Right, as happened yesterday morning on John Moore's show on CFRB, while the Ceej and the Lefty Jewstablishment will try to distance itself from the ad and continue with it's "bridge-building" efforts ("twinning" with mosques; "mentoring" Somalis and the rest of it). That said, I applaud the effort to wake Canadians out out their somnolence. Why won't it work? I think T.S. Eliot put it best: "Humankind cannot bear too much reality."
Have to agree with Jay - that ADD is a clear violation of Section 13.1 and since it was placed in an Ontario National newspaper - well Barbara Hall (OHRC) and Jenny (CHRC) and all other HRCs have jurisdiction.
Kinda missed the 1 Million Baha'is that also got slaughtered- but hey anyone can miss 1 million people.
I am offended as to the stereotypes, the link to Nazis and fact it is likely to cause ill feelings, hate and bad actions - incitement to violence.
This will be a test of the whole corrupt system and the apparatchiks they employ.
For Topham - it is a golden opportunity to show that those persecuting him display some of the same charecteristics.
Let us see if "Law is Cool" or the "Sockpuppets" along with Elmo intervene. Will ARC report this?
I can even see the Swastika in many places = illegal in parts of the EU. I so love it.
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