Poor Fatima Al Dhaher - The girl offended by Ann Coulter - Hates Israel

Fatima Al Dhaher that poor thing who was offended by Ann Coulter's camel comment, just happens to be a fan of a Facebook group that offends everyone - It's Called Palestine Not Israel!


Dear Fatima, Gotcha sweety even though you have deleted your Facebook page we have the screenshot with the reference to your little hate group;)

Update: Frumpy has a pic of the outraged Muslima reading her "question" to Ann Coulter from a blackberry, leading me to suspect that like the Maclean's sockpuppets this kid did not act uninstructed.
























Fatima Al Dhaher UWO 13




















Here's a post from Fatima's group all about Zionazis & Kikeroaches & Subhumans.





Thanks to Mississauga Matt for the Vid.

Yaacov Ben Moshe  – (12:50 PM)  

It's called what?
Oh, let's see, yes here it is:
Alderan, Brigadoon, Endor, Gotham CIty, Metropolis, Naboo, Navi, Loserville, Palestine, Smurfville, Shangri-La,-
How perfect! Right between loserville and Smurfville in my list of places that never really existed.

scream  – (1:02 PM)  

Blow goats!! Beats blowing camels, I guess.....

gordonmacdonald  – (1:18 PM)  

"Religious Views: Muslim"

Another upstanding "New Canadian" who embraces Western values!

Jim R  – (1:28 PM)  

Isn't this girl a 17 year old child Blaze?

Blow goats?? As well as make her a center fold of a cultural war??

Please think twice about this.

sanwin  – (1:29 PM)  

You got results.

Fatimah is NO longer a fan of this mythical country called Palestine.

At least that's what here Facebook page now says.

Typical lying chickenshit.

Flea  – (1:34 PM)  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa8MjjMajEA

Blazing Cat Fur  – (1:44 PM)  

A ggod point Jim if that is in fact her real age, as for the cultural war well I wonder if she acted alone?

scream  – (1:47 PM)  

Jim: "Centre fold of a cultural war"? What does that mean? When's Fatima's b-day? How many months do we have to wait before we can tell her to blow goats (or camels)?

Blazing Cat Fur  – (2:02 PM)  

Jim R visit Lumpy Grumpy & Frumpy, you will se a picture of our little Muslima reading her question from a Blackberry - like the Macleans "students" these kids do not act alone;

http://lumpygrumpyandfrumpy.blogspot.com/2010/03/ann-coulter-pics-1.html

noel  – (2:09 PM)  

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I hope CATSA has tagged her for an extra thorough, but gentile, grope search.
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truepeers  – (2:09 PM)  

Islam: religion or renaming complex?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new.."

But that's a historical way of thinking, i.e. Judeo-Christian or Greek. For a Muslim, Islam is original to humanity and uncreated. Everything non-Muslim is a corruption of the original way. Thus one can understand why a UWO '13 student would avow that there is no Israel. But a Palestinian or Palestine - the Philistines were Greek!? If the genocidal fantasy prevails, I suspect that name will last about twenty minutes. If Facebook and computers are still around, she'll have to do another scrub. So much work, this history thing - the return to Islam will end all that!

summer  – (2:35 PM)  

I was pretty impressed that this 17year old Muslim girl, attending a university which is a privilege unknown in many Islamic nations, was standing up in a roomful of men and women sitting together, another privilege largely unheard of in many Muslim nations, freely expressing her views within the context of a precious right of freedom of speech unheard of in most Islamic nations, won by the blood of Chrisitans. The irony of a girl chirping about her "hurt feelings," while belonging to a group with many of its adherents sympathetic with the intent of driving 6 million people into the sea is beyond belief.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (2:40 PM)  

But par for the course - they are taught well.

sanwin  – (3:19 PM)  

Brilliant.

Coren is on Charles Adler right now and he has just mentioned that our muslimah fried was until a 'few hours ago a member of a facebook group that wanted the elimination of the state of Israel'.

Finally it's out in the open.

Good job Cat.

Josephine  – (3:20 PM)  

Well done, BCF, and thanks for the link!

Blazing Cat Fur  – (3:34 PM)  

Aw shucks folks jus doin my job;)

L  – (3:53 PM)  

Yah, well I'm extremely offended by air travel scanners to prevent extremists with body bombs on flights. What is next? Obviously random internal examinations, as that is the inevitable next step designed to humiliate and intimidate the west. So, the camel remark is a bit outrageous, but is fine by me, as we need to have this conversation in North America, soon.

Rotterdam  – (4:10 PM)  

I am offended that she got offended.

This is priceless.

L  – (4:15 PM)  

Young women like this one who want to play the "ultra-cute-femaley" victim card should be "outed", as you have done. Thanks for your research.

Rotterdam  – (4:24 PM)  

We need Christianity and the Hebrew faith in Muslim countries so more like her can attend university and speak freely among men.

How ironic, only country that allows this in the middle east in Israel, a country she wants eliminated.

natasha  – (4:24 PM)  

She played the victim well -- the idiot leftist media lapped it up. It was a lovely pre-planned event -- her question, and she was in constant communication with her cohorts, texting her fellow Muslim "victims" constantly before it all began and during the event. As you say for further instructions.

And thanks so much for the screen cap! I checked her facebook page, then exited and came back, and in that time, she had deleted the link to the Israel hate group.

KyleD4  – (4:54 PM)  

Honestly you are all horrible people for saying stuff like "blow goats" to her. You don't even know her. I went to highschool with her. She is the Brightest girl i have ever met, and she was even the valedictorian for our graduating year at highschool. She will be better than all of you will ever be.

Chris  – (4:55 PM)  

I have a class with this girl. You guys are absolute morons. There was no pre-planning, Muslim cohorts, or any of that ridiculousness. She did the research herself in order to ask the question, and she told me she wrote it on the phone so she could remember what she wanted to say, because she was so nervous. This girl is a sweet, timid 1st year, and I'm absolutely proud of her. You guys enjoy reading too much into these things. This was someone who stood up while others actually applauded.

sanwin  – (5:01 PM)  

Chris,

Actually, a more accurate introduction would be

"I have no class."

Blazing Cat Fur  – (5:02 PM)  

KyleD4 and Chris, this bright sweet girl you describe happens also to support a group calling for the extinction of Israel. For you to attempt to whitewash this fact means only one thing - YOU BOTH BLOW GOATS.

sanwin  – (5:04 PM)  

KyleD4,

Did mommy allow you to use the computer on your own ?

http://twitter.com/kyleD4

KyleD4  – (5:40 PM)  

ohaha..

First off Blazing Cat, she has a freedom of speech and can join whatever the hell group she wants and atleast she is not saying muslims should be banished from airports and should ride magic carpets or camels..

Second off sanwin that is not my twitter as u see that person's location is in scotland, but i live in london, ontario, canada. and if you look at his tweets, every other word is spelled wrong. i may have a few grammar and spelling errors but not nearly as much as that guys.


I agree with chris's comment.

KyleD4  – (5:41 PM)  

btw sanwin.. do u always creep people's twitter accounts?

scream  – (5:48 PM)  

Weird, Kyle & Chris don't seem too concerned about their goat-blowing friend wanting to wipe out the Jewish state. Hmmmm, I wonder why that is less offensive to them than telling a Jew hater to "blow goats". Prudes, these young ones are.....

Blazing Cat Fur  – (6:44 PM)  

Yea it's funny how Goat Blowers like Fatima, KyleD4 & Chris hate Israel & the Jews but remember they are entitled to express their opinions. Makes em easier to track;)

meccaneck  – (6:44 PM)  

Fatima will undoubtedly become another snivil servant... Most likely bound for the HRC/T's, if we can't get rid of the fascist institution in time...

Class valedictorian says to me it must have been a less than stellar school...

KyleD4  – (7:06 PM)  

I never said that I hated Israel and the Jews. All I am saying is that you shouldnt say things like Goat-Blower to a person you don't even know.

You know you have no life when you blog about dissing a 17 year old girl

scream  – (7:13 PM)  

Brainwashed 17 year olds are our biggest problem. I don't know if you hate Jews or Israel but you're sticking up for someone who does. I'm perfectly comfortable telling her to blow goats (or me).

precious.neraa  – (7:21 PM)  

OK, All you people out there stalking her facebook groups and profile, get a life. Fatima is a very strong and talented girl. The fact that she's 17 and everyone is making a big deal about it, most people should be embarassed because they can't even compare their knowledge to hers. Most 17 year olds whether boy or girl are too busy in their soial lives rather than what is really going on around the world. Fatima has strong beliefs and stood up for what she thinks is right just like everyone else is doing right now...including Ann. And about the facebook group..There is a diffrerence between Jews and Isreal, Fatima is not a racist but just like Ann lost a friend on 9/11, you never know, she might've had a friend or family member that has been killed by an Isreali soldier. Just be knowledgable about what's really going on around the world before you comment.

ruba  – (7:30 PM)  

I really wonder who is brainwashed ,a 17 years old who witnessed her land taken away from her or the media that tells us what to think and what to believe??????
i witnessed my land taken away from me and i Can't go for a visit,is that acceptable?
you want muslims to leave to their countries,then please give them their countries backkkkk.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (7:39 PM)  

Sorry guys your dear sweet Fatima has been exposed as a run of the mill Islamist tool, you best get over it. Your pathetic efforts to defend her will not lessen the fact that she is nothing more but another False Martyr for the Jihadi's who have manipulated her.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (7:44 PM)  

precious.neraa take your filthy lies elsewhere, Fatima supported a group that calls for the extinction of Israel that too then according to your description of her must also be a be one of her "strong beliefs" a belief you also support I suspect - go fuck yourself you jew baiting scum.

truepeers  – (8:14 PM)  

Well, someone needs to point out to the kids who think "her land was taken away" that maybe they are the ones brainwashed by the media. I mean, kids, prove me wrong: show us a convincing story/argument for why the Jews have less of a claim on Israel than "the Palestinians" - in both cases most of the Jews and most of the Arabs descend from relatively recent immigrants to the area, though all Jews, as DNA tests now show, have an ancestral lineage to the place. Are you against immigration? IN which case, most of the Arabs have to leave "Palestine" along with the Jews; indeed most of us have to disappear somewhere...

Israel is a tiny country and is all that the Jews claim as their own. Half of the Jews in Israel are recent refugees from Muslim countries - who had to run for their lives and leave everything else behind. The Muslim world is a huge place in comparison and has succeeded over the centuries in kicking out almost every Christian and Jew and the few who remain are treated awfully - just Google Christians in Egypt, Pakistan, etc., if you don't believe me. You might learn that much of the Middle East (all the way to Pakistan) and North Africa was once predominantly Christian.

Take all that in and ask yourselves why you don't know anything about these stories of people losing their lands. There is no nation on the face of the earth that hasn't evolved through struggles in which one group gains dominance over another. So why the obsession with only tiny little Israel? Because, like the Muslims, you can't live with the existence of any Jewish state. What does that say about you?

truepeers  – (8:23 PM)  

You might also Google some stats on the standard of living of the "Palestinians" and discover that they actually have a higher per capita income than Arabs in Egypt or Jordan. IN other words, they have done materially well from extorting money from the "Internatinal commmunity". You might also learn that almost half the young men in the Palestinian territories make their livelihood from joining militias and carrying guns - they have a definite economic interest in maintaining a state of war. And look at the Palestinian leadership and try to convince yourself that, based on their actions for the last 70 or 80 years that they really want to live alongside Israel, in some shape or form, alongside Jews who have political rights and are not to be treated like dhimmis. YOu won't find much evidence for it. They live as losers in war because they have only ever wanted war and the elimination of the Jewish presence. And ask yourself why none of the Arab countries offer to take in the Palestinians as immigrants, why the leaders of the Arab world want a permanent war in Palestine...

Blazing Cat Fur  – (8:29 PM)  

Here are a couple of posts our Less Than a Miracle of Fatima Believers might also mull over:

Meet Nadine Hamed guys, and Save a Child's Heart

truepeers  – (8:35 PM)  

I might also mention that there are lots of Muslim Arabs still living in Israel - the only ones who "lost their land" were those who fled of their own volition when they were told lies during the war of 1948 that the Jews would do horrible things to them and that the Arab armies would soon wipe out the Jews so leave until it's safe to go back.

Otherwise, Jewish immigrants to Israel, or to what became Israel, bought the land and developed the modern economy that in turn attracted many Arab migrants to the area.

Revnant Dream  – (9:13 PM)  

You should be in Journalism yourself BCF.
When you investigate something even the mites go a running. Well done expose!!!

Cardlover  – (10:48 PM)  
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Louise  – (10:54 PM)  

I am just so disturbed by what happened at the U of O this evening, but the good part of it is this will help Coulter with her plan to emasculate that university official who wrote her that stupid letter.

In fact, there are just so many delicious monstrosities that she can slay, our poor oppressed Muslim student and her lost cause. I hope Coulter kicks ass.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (10:55 PM)  

Cardlover, yours has to be the stupidest pro-jew baiter comment yet.

If you read the post then you would see the research before your own lyin eyes. Fatima supported a group calling for the extinction of Israel. Fatima was photographed "reading" her question to Ann Coulter from a blackberry, which indicates she is being manipulated by Islamist thugs at best and at worst is in fact an avid adherent of that murderous ideology.

Now I suugest you start with Trupeers comments regarding the truth about Israel and that mythical unicorn land you call Palestine.

meccaneck  – (11:08 PM)  

Fatima felt 'stabbed in the heart' over the camel comment... CTV interview...

Why are Islamofascists always using violent imagery to express themselves?

Blazing Cat Fur  – (11:18 PM)  

Becuase they lack basic PR skills, but then even the best Mad Men couldn't cover up the lie they live.

Cardlover  – (11:48 PM)  

First of all... it's not a blackberry.

Second of all, it's not extinction of Israel. Israel stole the land. It was Palestinians to start with.

Third of all, she wrote down the question in case she forgets, so get your facts straight.

Why do you pick on people? The point is ANN, not ISRAEL...

Blazing Cat Fur  – (12:09 AM)  

Cardlover she is reading a question directly from a blackberry, Frumpy was there you were not I will take her at her word.

Israel did not steal anything, the Islamists however have stolen you're abilty to think.

The point is not Ann Cardlover. The point is that Fatima supports the extinction of Israel as do all her supporters like yourself. That speaks volumes about you and the motives behind those who hoped to turn her into some kind Pally Poster Girl.

Cardlover  – (12:42 AM)  

It's a phone yes... but it's not a blackberry. Now you said that Frumpy was there, you took her source but the source turns out to be wrong. NOW how the hell do you know that Israel did not steal anything, or Islamist is wrong or whatever?

We are human being and we shouldn't criticise like this at all. We have a life, and whatever you're doing, you should stop and start spending more time outside of the computer.

truepeers  – (3:39 AM)  

Why are Islamofascists always using violent imagery to express themselves?

Because all that matters to the left today is producing "victims" with which to accuse the normal and assert guilt. Sometimes they actively encourage killing - by encouraging an Intifada or fomenting disorder, e.g. Obama's foreign policy - in order to have further victims to champion; sometimes it's just symbolic; in either case it's a cult of human sacrifice that luxuriates in victims.

And this is why Cardlover has been so poorly and pathetically "educated" to think human beings shouldn't criticize each other. All he can "think" is that we have to stop another act of victimization from happening. He doesn't get, however, that this surface desire to stop victimization is tied to a deeper Satanic desire to rub victims in the face of the other side. He doesn't see, in his naivete, how his nice school-boy ethic is part of a larger scene that is dependent on the need to produce the victims that allow us to wail, self-righteously, can't we all just get along and agree that Israel is the one devil we can all share in common?

gama  – (5:44 AM)  

Looks like the modestly veiled Muslimah, Fatima, used a shoe horn to put on her jeans...... Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa..

Blazing Cat Fur  – (6:46 AM)  

Cardlover that is perhaps the most pitiful excuse I've seen yet, you guys really have to drop the perpetual victim crap, you aren't doing phony Fatima any good.

sanwin  – (10:21 AM)  

To all those defending this fine your muslimah, please try to answer this.

Why did our fine young muslimah suddenly cancel her membership in the facebook group that calls for the elimination of Israel ?

Dawnelle  – (10:54 AM)  

"We are human being and we shouldn't criticise like this at all." - Cardlover

An interesting point is that Cardlover has been criticising people on this blog for criticising. Apparently that is allowed though. Nice double standard. Hypocrisy is when one truly believes that statement, yet makes negative comments about someone else's behaviour on a blog.

Cardlover  – (11:13 AM)  

Did I criticize? I'm sorry, but I seriously need to say that these people need to have a life, because I just wasted a night for this. People of the blogger, post something that is meaningful, not just attacking people. You guys enjoy too much reading this that you guys start to twist things around. Gotta look at the bigger picture here.

Now, I'm gonna stop here because this blog isn't doing anyone any good. You guys have an amazing day.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (11:18 AM)  

We know the bigger picture Cardy and it ain't pretty.

truepeers  – (12:11 PM)  

Cardy: gotta stop before I criticize someone.

That is exactly the mentality that allows a mob to shut down an Ann Coulter talk. Already learned in high school. The left no longer believes in free speech because the first priority is insuring nothing ever happens that could possibly leave someone victimized. But this, of course, is a road to societal stagnation and some totalitarian nightmare where we keep making excuses for terrorists because they are on the side of the "victim".

Grow up.

sanwin  – (12:40 PM)  

Who is that God awful ugly black chick anyway .... if she is a chick anyway ? I could be wrong, it could be a pre-op transgendered person as well.

summer  – (1:47 PM)  

What people don't seem to see here is that Fatima was trying to get sympathy for herself on the basis of her feelings being hurt by Ann Coulter's "insensitivity". With me so far? Then it was revealed that Fatima is a member of a HATE GROUP which sympathizes with the DEATHS of millions of Jews living in Israel.
It doesn't matter how "nice" or "smart" Fatima is, she was revealed to be a hypocrite, demanding sympathy and pity for herself while denying the same respect to millions of Jews who DO call Israel HOME.
To prove she KNEW she was being hypocrital, she quickly removed her association with the hate group. That's deceptive.
The media is not being honest about this, preferring to use Fatima as their poster-child for a false victimhood. That is what has people so irritated.

glasnost  – (2:27 PM)  

I hope CATSA has tagged her for an extra thorough, but gentile, grope search. ~ noel

Noel must be going for the Yogi Berra award. LOL

Clark  – (3:19 PM)  

Enough of this. Fatima is not anti-semitic. She does not call for the deaths of Jews. Ann, actually, is more offensive towards Jews, stating that they "need to be perfected." Fatima is a very intelligent, very kind, and very peaceful person. She is one of the greatest people I know. And it's a nokia, not a blackberry.

Gama: fuck you. You're as bad as blazing cat fur, creeping her facebook profile. Go play in a blender.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (3:39 PM)  

Clark your "intelligent,kind,peaceful" Fatima supports a jew hating group that calls for the extinction of Israel. Try as she might she was caught attempting to cover this up.

She attempted or was manipulated into an effort to portray herself as a "victim" a "Little Pally Poster Girl" when in fact she was proven to be a wee liar with the seeds of hatred sown in her heart.

You lose.

truepeers  – (4:16 PM)  

Actually, Clark, can you provide a link to Coulter saying "need to be perfected". As a Christian, she has to believe in the New Testament and so she has said she thinks of Christians as "perfected Jews". That's not antisemitism; that's a Christian coming to terms with the structure of her religion that, inescapably, begins with a paradoxical gesture towards the Jews that is at once antisemitic and not antisemitic. The struggle of the real Christian is to recognize this problem in her religion, to recognize that Christianity can descend into antisemitism but that it need not. The real Christian recognizes the New Testament while transcending antisemitism by not demanding the Jews all become Christian.

Unless you can provide the quote, I have to assume you are the antisemite. One thing Coulter is maybe teaching a lot of "conservatives" right now is that conservatives are the new Jews. Why is it ok to shut down Ann? because she is a pariah, "an antisemite", a "hatemonger", a "racist", a woman who is not a feminist, yada yada yada. But absent any evidence this is just a way of saying the "antisemite" is the new Jew, the gal you can kick around and deny rights like free speech because everyone knows she's the bad guy and we are the righteous.

So far, it looks like you're the creep.

Clark  – (4:57 PM)  

She doesn't hate Jews! It's a facebook group, not an underground neo-nazi ring. She thinks that Palestinians were treated unfairly. End of story.

She asked two perfectly valid questions in a Q and A session and was later interviewed (something she did not expect or want). She doesn't want to be portrayed as anything, she just wants to be left alone. Leave her be and focus on the real issue: why do you bloggers love ripping people apart? "You lose"? What are you, 12? Your only logic is grounded in something that you can't prove because you don't know her, and I can refute because she's my friend.

Link: www.google.com
But I saved you 30 seconds: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/ann-coulter-thinks-that-j_b_67969.html

I'm a Christian, although right now, I'm ashamed to admit it.
Jesus wants us to love our enemies. He wants us to treat the "least of these" as we would treat him. He asked God to forgive his killers. "Religion that God our Father sees as pure and faultless is this: Love for the orphan and the widow, and to keep one's self from being corrupted by the world." Not much room for "Invading Muslim countries, killing their leaders, and converting them to Christianity" as Ann suggests.
The struggle of the real Christian is not how we should view Jews, it's how to love unconditionally. Fatima is more representative of these ideals than most "Christians" I meet.

truepeers  – (8:24 PM)  

Clark,

Thanks for providing that link. I have to say if that's your proof that Coulter is an antisemite, if that's all you have on here, then you're not really living up to the imperative to love your enemy when you call Coulter an antisemite.

It looks to me like Coulter got caught in a game of "It", she got tired of everyone trying to reveal her as a devil and she slipped into a self-righteous mode, looking for some shock effect. And she had too much pride to know when to backdown; and when she tried to backdown she didn't do it at all well. She's less than perfect, so what. A little heated polemic, making a mess of one of the most difficult of questions for Christians, does not make her an antisemite. But of course her enemies can't read that exchange in a charitable light. That's why they are enemies. I would like rather more evidence if you are to show me that she is an antisemite.

I wonder what you think "love thy enemy" means? Clearly, the concept of enemy is still there. It seems to me that one is being called to have a love for a shared sinful humanity, a shared Being/God of which we are each a part, in the face of inevitable conflicts in which our good humanity can and often does get taken up by hateful ideologies.

I would not take from this the lesson that we have to love unconditionally. One has to love, yes, that's the prime Christian imperative, yes. But once one starts talking about "unconditionally",we are no longer freely loving, which implies the choice to love. Once we think we love as a matter of course, we are rather engaged in some kind of self-righteousness. We are denying another necessary part of our humanity: resentment. Once people start denying their necessary resentment, something we have to learn to live with, they become dangerous to other people as they blinker themselves in self-righteousness. Resentment is necessary because it is part of our god-given reality, a way of recognizing or measuring our necessary differences in relationship to that which is sacred. While resentment is inherently delusional it is nonetheless the start of any genuine sense of injustice. And if justice is what one values most, as Jews are called to think, then there is going to be conflict with those who do not know how to judge and to name enemies as part of the injunction to love thy enemy.

Cheers!

Feynman and Coulter's Love Child  – (11:12 PM)  

BCF gets results: within hours of his posting, he has gotten Ann's questioner to disavow her previous beliefs about Israel.

Clark  – (11:43 PM)  

I never said she was antisemitic. I just said that if we are judging these two people based on their stances towards Judaism, Ann is the more offensive.

You all need more evidence that Fatima is antisemitic. Same logic.

I tend to see Jesus as a peasant, homeless Rabbi who meant it when he said turn the other cheek and sell everything you have and give it to the poor. Loving unconditionally is freely loving, it just means that there are no strings attached and it is not exclusive.

Martin  – (11:56 PM)  

I belong to a number of facebook groups. Sometimes I just like their titles. Sometimes I think they're funny. Sometimes I know someone else who joined, and I never actually visit the group's page. I'm absolutely certain that I do not subscribe to all of the views posted in those groups by other members.

To assume that because there is one comment exhorting violence (out of 355 on the single update) means that the point of the group is the extermination of six million people is a bit of a stretch. To then tarnish every member of the group with the same brush is, frankly, irresponsible.

Coulter's response to the question was rude. Rather than engaging in civilized debate and responding to the issue she chose to demean the questioner with a fairly poorly executed racial stereotype. Coulter knew nothing about the young woman -- she certainly didn't have a chance to analyze a Facebook page or scroll to comment 51 -- so her reply simply means she was responding to Fatima solely on prejudice.

It doesn't matter how much you dig into Fatima's background or beliefs after the fact (even though it is clear you are only looking for signs, however small, that reinforce your ability to discount her). Coulter's response was inappropriate, especially from someone who purports to want to address issues and engage in political dialogue.

truepeers  – (3:27 AM)  

Coulter's response was inappropriate, especially from someone who purports to want to address issues and engage in political dialogue.

-Seems to me that's not a very good description of what Ann is about. She seems to me interested in denouncing leftist religion(s) and asserting alternative forms of the sacred. She is not much intersted in the kind of metaphysical dialogue that is normal in universities and that, in its Platonic origins, is tied to the origins of the concept of free speech. Plato invented a way of talking freely about ideas as an alternative to earlier religious forms of mediating human conflicts.

As I say, Ann's business strikes me as rather more religious than Platonic in nature. One of the things we may be missing in talking about "free speech" is that this is really a religious conflict, and what is being denied to students at Ottawa is freedom of religion. The leftists who shut her down insisted that only their conception of what is sacred - and what is unacceptable to it - be admitted. "We will not tolerate the intolerant" is not so much an idea around which one can dialogue. It is rather an assertion of a religious order that cannot be questioned. Ann is quite right to respond to this sort of thing not with "an openness to debate", because that really isn't being offered, but with attempts to belittle the other side's gods.

truepeers  – (3:35 AM)  

I never said she was antisemitic. I just said that if we are judging these two people based on their stances towards Judaism, Ann is the more offensive.

-if you're offensive to Jews, you're probably an antisemite, unless it's just that you smell or something. Why would Jews be offended by a philosemite? and there really are only two options - anti or philo. You can't really be neutral about Jews, thought your attitude can change depending on context. Since the Nazis, people think "antisemitism" is some big, very evil thing. That's understandable to a point, but antisemitism is really something mundane - e.g. many Jews are antisemitic because they don't like the role of Jews in history - and only deadly at the extremes.

gama  – (5:22 AM)  

Clark
Your 'Cum-on' { fuck You } No thanks.... i'm just not into your type .... walking STD's !

Blazing Cat Fur  – (6:44 AM)  

Martin you are a very poor liar, the Israeli flag has an X through it, the mebers of Fatimas group are dedicated to the extinction of Jews.

Clark  – (10:59 AM)  

I'm just saying that out of the two, Ann was more offensive. Not saying Ann is in any way against Jews for real. I mean, if Ann really hated every group that she insulted, she would be charged with hate crimes.

I see you missed my point, gama. I'll try again. In the words of Brand New: Have another drink and drive yourself home... I hope there's ice on all the roads.

The extinction of a Jewish state, maybe. Jews, no. At least, not Fatima.

bocanut  – (11:02 AM)  

precious.neraa said...
"Fatima is not a racist but just like Ann lost a friend on 9/11"

Fatima had pilot friends?

Blazing Cat Fur  – (11:16 AM)  

So Clarke you now state that Fatima likely only wishes to deny the Jews the right to self determination and their ancestral homeland of Israel but is not in fact calling for their murder.

Well thanks for clearing that up for us Clarkie, we all feel so much better now. By the way Clarke do you feel that Israel should be made extinct as well?

truepeers  – (12:24 PM)  

The extinction of a Jewish state, maybe. Jews, no. At least, not Fatima.

-the problem with a one-state solution, if that's what you're talking about, is that there are very few "Palestinians" who actually talk seriously about how it would work, very few who take the idea seriously. WHy is that? Because in the Islamic world view, which still rules Palestinian opinion even among those who are "secular", there can be no place for any Jewish (minority) politics and power alongside Muslim politics and power. Any "one state" would have to entail the clear submision of Jews to Islamic law, i.e. "dhimmitude". But given the current pathological hatred of Jews that is propagandized in the Palestinian schools, media, and daily life, even dhimmitude - involving the mere presence of large numbers of Jews - would probably be unacceptable to many "Palestinians".

Thus calling for the elimination of the Jewish state is, in all practical reality, calling for the violent removal of Jews from the land of Israel; and since many Jews would fight and not voluntarily leave, it's calling for a lot of killing.

This is what happens when you can't accept reality for what it is. And whatever you think of Zionism, Israel is now a well-established reality. Rejecting Zionism is thus, in practice, calling for mass killing.

So, the best you can say for someone who calls for the elimination of Israel is dangerous naievete. And you can't but wonder if there might be some more bloody agenda there, especially when the person presents signs of obedience to Islam.

BGC73  – (2:38 PM)  

I've checked out that face book group, for the most part I see balanced opinions, yes some wing nuts/rotten apples with extreme views, but no stated agenda to eliminate Isreal. Instead I see people expressing opinions and views, some of it quite intelligent. So basically what you are trying to "insinuate" through association with this web site Fatima Al-Dhaher is a militant and a suppressor of free speech? Such post 911 rhetoric, any dissent or speaking out against racist or bigoted views is deemed an act of violence or threat against the west! This is about Coulter's racist views, not free speech, try to delineate between the two and stop hiding behind the veil of free speech. By the way Ann Coulter gets plenty of time on american network television to spew her twisted version of the truth!

Blazing Cat Fur  – (2:50 PM)  

BGC73 you must be posting in the wrong thread, this post is about Fatima supporting a group calling for the extinction of Israel, you know the group that refers to Jews as Subhumans and Kikeroaches.

Nice bit of dissembling, Fatima was "this close" to being a Ms. "Little Victim" except for that hate group thing.

Oh by the way BGC73 do you belive Israel has a right to exist? I ask because whenever I ask the shills who show up trying to put the shine back on Fatima's tarnished image they never reply and they never come back. Funny that.

Clark  – (3:52 PM)  

Get over the Israel thing! Fatima is not in any way against Jews. I don't know how I can make this any clearer. BGC73 put it very well, but you, cat fur, are obviously too mired in your bigoted, anti-Fatima bullshit to see that the girl you are insulting is the type of person that makes the world a better place. It's because of assholes like you that she has to shut down her profile, cancel interviews, and put up with a steady flow of hate mail.

My opinion on Israel/Palestine is that they need to get over their racist, nationalistic pride and stop killing each other. I don't care what it's called. I think I share that opinion with most Israelis and Palestinians. Happy?

Blazing Cat Fur  – (4:04 PM)  

Clarke what about all the Jews Fatima has insulted and victimized by supporting an anti-Israel hate group. Does that make the world a better place? Show me how.

truepeers  – (4:26 PM)  

My opinion on Israel/Palestine is that they need to get over their racist, nationalistic pride and stop killing each other. I don't care what it's called.

-that's called antisemitism, mate. Nationalistic pride is not separable from Jewish Being. You can't have one without the other. Israel is the world's first nation, bound by covenant or constitution, and it continues today as a leading exemplar of nationhood, and the freedom for self-rule that goes with nationhood, in the face of imperialistic forces that would smother it in a "diversity" that can only be ruled from above. Jews are only killing in defense of their nationhood, not in support of some dream of a global empire/Caliphate under Sharia law. There's a difference and a mature person makes a choice between the two without trying the cop out of a "pox on both your houses."

truepeers  – (4:41 PM)  

Such post 911 rhetoric, any dissent or speaking out against racist or bigoted views is deemed an act of violence or threat against the west! This is about Coulter's racist views, not free speech, try to delineate between the two and stop hiding behind the veil of free speech.

Well, if we're not allowed to question such a silly insistence, then it is a question of free speech. If we're not allowed to hold what you consider "racist" views, then it is a question of free speech.

Talking about veils, you know, it is only someone totally brainwashed by academic performances of "resistance" and "speaking out" in the "post-9/11 environment", someone who falls for the daring rhetoric at the Student Union Building, or in the "postcolonial classroom" implying that this kind of daily performance is a dangerous activity - as if these performances in highly financed universities were not institutionally protected - could write such drivel. You think it takes guts to denounce "racism" at a university? You are nuts if you can't distinguish between what is almost required behaviour at universities (dressed up as brave resistance to the horrible world outside the ivy walls) and what takes guts. You are also ignorant fo the dominant "anti-racist" discourse outside the universities. And that really, is why the university crowd hates Coulter, because she shows who the real conformists are. When the daring woman is a conservative who takes shots at the Other, she pops the romantic myths of the institutionalized, totally conventional, left, their myth that the left is somehow a "progressive" or anti-conventional force. Hasn't been true for decades. It's a ritual or "resistance" you're invovled in. And the victim on today's altar is named Coulter. Maybe that doesn't bother you, but tomorrow the victim is someone else and so on and so on. See how many of your school's daring feminists stand up for the victims of anti-woman religions in the non-WEstern world. Speak out against it and you may find that you too are a "Racist!!"

Clark  – (5:16 PM)  

First of all... no "e".

Secondly, it's an issue of opinion... you are all acting like the fact of the matter is that Israel is entirely a victim, which is not true.

It's not antisemitism, it's common sense. There is no nation that can use the excuse "nationalistic pride is inseparable from our being." No good. Doesn't hold water. If it's a choice between not being a self ruling nation and killing, the nation thing loses. Like I said, I'm sure that most Israelis would rather lose their "independence" than live in fear every day.

celts2342  – (5:31 PM)  

Blazing Cat Fur, get a life, you're really stalking a 17 year old's facebook page? To see what groups she's in? You are pathetic. Guess what, every person on this planet has thought racist thoughts before. You're seriously comparing a college freshman joining a facebook group to a celebrity telling the same college freshman, in a room full of 800 people, with cameras rolling, who's a Muslim, to ride a camel? Like, really? And how do you know she didn't join the group because she wanted to insult it on it's wall? Or because a friend told her to? She's a political science major, how do you know she didn't join it to talk politics with the people in it? Hey guess what, YOU DON'T KNOW HER, so don't make assumptions!! I GUARANTEE you've thought and probably said racist things in public, we all do. There is a major difference between saying things in public, especially when your someone of Coulter's status, than joining a group on facebook. Give, me, a break. Now go back to stalking teenagers, it seems like that's a favorite hobby of yours.

truepeers  – (6:12 PM)  

It's not antisemitism, it's common sense. There is no nation that can use the excuse "nationalistic pride is inseparable from our being." No good. Doesn't hold water. If it's a choice between not being a self ruling nation and killing, the nation thing loses. Like I said, I'm sure that most Israelis would rather lose their "independence" than live in fear every day.

- If antisemitism isn't the rejection of Jewish national identity (on the assumption that this identity is the cause of violent evils) then what pray tell is it? I don't want to overdo the "pride" thing, because there is indeed a kind of vanity that comes before a fall. But if shared Jewishness is not rooted in a certain considered pride in the covenant(s) that has come down to us from Abraham, Moses, etc. then what on earth do you think it is?

If it's a choice between not being a self ruling nation and killing, the nation thing loses.

-this is mindless because it implies there is a choice of a world where killing does not take place. So far, that choice does not exist (and a Christian who pays attention to the warning that "my kingdom is not of this world" might at least consider that Jesus himself did not foresee an end to human conflict in this world.) Our choice is not between killing and Utopia, it is rather to find the least violent set of social arrangements - the worst system, except for all the others.

When I defend national pride and self-rule I do so because I believe (one could argue this at length if you like, though I'm running out of time today) that a world system founded on constitutional nation-states is the best we can hope for. A world built of nation-states that can defend themselves and hence defend the existing order of power (without creating dangerous power vacuums - which is what the critics of Israel implicitly do), a world of nations that are democratic and hence transparent to each other, promises to be the best way to minimize violence. (Accordingly, it is the Arab and Persian culture that has to change, not the Jewish...) The real alternatives are MORE violent. Israel, in very carefully limiting its use of violence, is exemplary of the use of measured violence to avoid greater violence, again a point I'm happy to argue at length another time (my blog is Covenant Zone).

And so, when I see someone blaming Israel for violence, and saying Israel has no right to exist if it must use violence, then I see the epitome of antisemitism - human sinfulness is blamed on the Jew; if only he were destroyed, the world would live in peace. WHich is nonsense. Sad to say that your argument is just what every antisemite has always said about the pushy, aggressive, violent Jew.

It seems to me that what you hate is that many Jews may well have a more rigorous conception of justice, including at times the need for violent retribution in the name of justice, than you do; and that ultimately poses itself as a threat to your religious identity, though I am quite convinced that truly learned Christians do not and need not find the Jewish state's existence, and self-defense, to be a scandal to a Christian world view.

If most Israelis would rather lose their independence than live in fear...

-again, its a mindless choice you pose. It is precisely the loss of independence that engenders fear. Independent and free people are generally far more courageous in facing aggressive enemies, and hence defending peace, as, again, Israel demonstrates. IN any case, many Israelis do hold passports of other countries and could leave. So far, they don't. But don't be a fool: there are many Jews, especially the religious, who will fight to the bitter end, with all the weapons at their disposal, if it ever comes to that. Consequently, if you are truly interested in non-violence you had better respect Israeli sovereignty. The world is what it is, not what youthful desires would have it be.

verofoster  – (6:34 PM)  

truepeers, this is the cleareast,sanest, most inteligent and intelligble, argument I have ever read on this topic...oh, and did I mention realistic...I was getting ready to post a comment here but yours would make mine redundant...

Fhirz  – (8:20 PM)  

So, what do you have against Fatima? So what if she is a fan of a page called "It's called Palestine not Israel" I happen to have a book with that same title. What do her POLITICAL views, have to do with the Ann coulters insult? Ann coulter insulted not only Fatima, but Muslims around the whole world. In fact, Ann coulter made her stupidity even more obvious with that comment of hers.... "Take a camel"? So all Muslims, commute by camel? And I believe you are invading someones privacy by searching for them on Facebook, and then publishing a photo of their Facebook profile on your website. Seriously? You are ignorant, and trying to sway people form the fact that ANN COULTER IS RACIST, and spreads hates towards not only Muslims, but Jews, and anyone else who doesn't have the same beliefs as her.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (8:28 PM)  

Fatima must also be a racist then by your logic Fhirz, thank you for establishing that for us.

truepeers  – (8:29 PM)  

I would like to change a few words in my previous spiel, especially this: "it seems to me that what you hate is that many Jews may well have a more rigorous conception of justice"

-I don't see any signs that Clark's resentments deserve the modifier "hate". I should have been less emotional and say I think he fears the conception of justice inherent in the defense of Israel and its use of violence.

-as I said above, I think antisemitism is a mundane thing; i don't call people out on it to say, "you're evil". We all have our share in evil. No I just call people on it because it is so ordinary and as such it is the kind of thing we just don't see (until it reaches an extreme form). But as long as we can't see it, we are ripe to fall, in my view, for an uncharitable understanding of Israel. FWIW, we are all, including most Jews I imagine, antisemitic at times. Perhaps a better word would be Judeophobic, however. Strictly speaking "antisemitism" was a term coined only in the late nineteenth century by a movement for an anti-Jewish racial theory that was based on some absurd biological claims. No sign of that here, though "antisemitism" has come to mean "Judeophobia".

Clark  – (9:00 PM)  

truepeers, you are obviously well informed on this subject. I'm not. I checked out your blog... Very well written, I'll definitely be reading it. Thanks for being civil.

I know that we won't ever have a world without violence, but I do think that by fighting, as you put it "to the bitter end, with all the weapons at their disposal" Israel will only ever cause more violence. Put pressure on Palestine, they will fight back. Put pressure on Israel, they will fight back. Solution? No idea. But your argument for supporting Israel can be flipped around to support Palestine. But, like I said, I'm uneducated on the subject.
Also, if you don't see anything in my posts that deserve to be called hate (thanks, by the way...), I'd ask that you do the same reflection for Fatima.
You're a good example of how civility works better than arrogance...

Speaking of which, Blazing Cat Fur, I posted to defend my friend against you and others that would insult her, and I think I have succeed admirably. You've been reduced to illogical claims and personal attacks. I'm guilty (of the second one, at least), but at least I have the excuse of having personal stake in this.

By the way, Jesus probably rode camels. People like Ann forget that Jesus wasn't American.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (9:06 PM)  

You have a very low definition of success Clark. Fatima supports a hate group dedicated to the destruction of Israel. An act that is offensive. You have done nothing to refute this fact. All the obfuscation in the world won't change the truth.

She portrayed herself as a false victim before the world, was caught out in her lie, attempted to conceal that lie and has now paid the price. End of story.

Clark  – (10:33 PM)  

Like I've said, Fatima does not support the "destruction" of anything. Peaceful negotiation, yes. Destruction, no. Out of any of the posters on this thread, I am the authority on that. I've provided the only necessary evidence: It's a facebook group. That's it. A facebook group is about as harmless and uninformative as you can get.

All you did was find a little shred of "evidence" and blow it out of proportion so you can argue your sad little point. And you found this evidence by creeping a teenage girl's facebook profile.

Leave her alone. Seriously, you've had your sick fun, now it's over. You can keep your opinion of Fatima, just don't spread it around like it's fact.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (10:41 PM)  

No one gives a damn what you said Clark, you didn't join the Death to Israel Hate Group - Fatima al Dhaher did.

You didn't lie to the public about being an innocent victim - Fatima al Dhaher did.

You didn't boast about your membership in the Death to Israel Hate Group on your facebook page - Fatima al Dhaher did.

You didn't try to hide your membership in the Death To Israel Hate Group when found out - Fatima al Dhaher did.

And those Clark are the facts. We take the Islamist threat very seriously, but remember not all muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are muslim.

Fhirz  – (11:05 PM)  
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Fhirz  – (11:08 PM)  

And now some of you are claiming that the page was a "DEATH TO ISRAEL HATE GROUP" ARE U KIDDING ME!!!! Don't change the words of the fan page, to fit will with your ridiculous arguments. So this makes Fatima, the "bad" one here, right? Ann coulter is a person who spreads love, and joy towards all people.....is that what you all are saying? I am so glad, I, and thousands of other students did not let her spread HER HATE SPEECH at my campus!

Fhirz  – (11:21 PM)  

Re-posting my previous post because i wanted to add one more thing..... Cat, you make no sense at all, what makes Fatima a racist? ...elaborate. Is she racist because she is a Muslim? Is she a racist because of her "political" views, because of a page she's a "fan" of. You are just trying to make Fatima look bad, because you simply don't agree with her political views! That's messed up. If you support Coulter, you are just as bad her, you are a Jew hater, Muslim hater, and as stupid and ignorant as her.
This is ridiculous.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (11:23 PM)  

Uh Fhirz, just an FYI any group that has discussions referring to Jews as Subhuman Kikeroaches qualifies as a hate group in the real world.

Now I realize in the crazy Islamist world you inhabit discussions like this are likely run of the mill dinner chatter but you forget, this is the real world.

alibaba  – (1:53 AM)  

What is wrong with joining that Facebook group. The land where Israel was created by the zionists was always called Palestine and most of its inhabitants were Palestinian Muslims, followed by the Palestinian Christians and a minority of Palestinian Jews.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

Here is a quote for the Wikipedia article linked above:

"In 1920, the League of Nations' Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine stated that there were 700,000 people living in Palestine. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. "

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and all Palestinian refugees should be permitted to return to their land.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (6:37 AM)  

Except that it's called Israel alibaba, Poor Fatima has that she has such friends.

Clark  – (9:04 AM)  

You are changing the words, Cat Fur, and regardless of what discussions go on in that facebook group, Fatima did not participate in them and, in all likelihood, did not even know they were going on.

"You didn't boast about your membership in the Death to Israel Hate Group on your facebook page - Fatima al Dhaher did." What the hell? Boast about it? When did she do that? If that is your idea of fact, I recommend you try and get your high school diploma before posting again.

"You didn't try to hide your membership in the Death To Israel Hate Group when found out - Fatima al Dhaher did." Yeah, she left the group because she was getting hate mail and she was scared. Of people like you.

"You didn't lie to the public about being an innocent victim - Fatima al Dhaher did." Right, saying that she was offended means she wants everyone to take pity on her... Oh, wait... No it doesn't. She wants this to be over.

Yeah, poor Fatima... She has friends that stick up for her and aren't stupid enough to think that a facebook group says something about a person. She needs more illogical, cruel friends.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (9:24 AM)  

We are judged by our actions Clark, I presented the facts of Fatima's online associations, the public has based their opinion on those facts.

Life is hard.

Here Clark for your edification are the facts once again.

You didn't join the Death to Israel Hate Group - Fatima al Dhaher did.

You didn't lie to the public about being an innocent victim - Fatima al Dhaher did.

You didn't boast about your membership in the Death to Israel Hate Group on your facebook page - Fatima al Dhaher did.

You didn't try to hide your membership in the Death To Israel Hate Group when found out - Fatima al Dhaher did.

And those Clark are the facts. We take the Islamist threat very seriously, but remember not all muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are muslim.

nolank  – (1:37 PM)  

Dear Blazing Cat Fur, so... she's a member of this group so are dozens of others. The only reason you brought this up was cause she rightfully called out your idol. Ann Coulter supports racism, to say the least. She insulted a group of people and obviously Fatima wanted to let her know that it was unacceptable. I can't see the relationship between who Fatima supports in the israel v. palenstine debacle and Coulter's racist remarks.

tl:dr
go back to licking ann's racist feet you blind, ignorant follower.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (1:50 PM)  

Dear nolank,

Thank you for your comment. Fatima supported a hate group and you defend her, that's all anyone needs to know.

PS. Allah blows goats.

Brian Busby  – (4:50 PM)  

Very brave of you, Blazing Cat Fur, hiding behind a pseudonym while going after an underage girl - all the while making sweeping assumptions about her beliefs and motivations

And now - at 1:50 PM - you blaspheme the God of Muslims, Jews and Christians.

Incredible.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (5:04 PM)  

What a sanctimonius little suckhole you are Brian. Fatima supports a hate group that calls for the destruction of Israel and has "discussions" that refer to Jews as subhuman and kikeroaches. Now what are your motivations asshat?

Brian Busby  – (5:38 PM)  

My motivations?

Well, as a Christian I do take offence to your words about God. And really, does it make sense to accuse others of being "jew [sic] baiters", when you turn around and write that the God of the Jews "blows goats"?

Look, call me a "sanctimonius [sic] little suckhole" and "asshat" if you want, but you may want to put a bit more thought into your writing.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (5:56 PM)  

Brian, why are you not offended that Fatima belongs to a group calling for the destruction of Israel and that refers to Jews as Subhumans Zionazis and Kikeroaches?


It's a rough and tumble world Brian, if you are so easily offended I sugggest you refrain from visiting my blog.

Brian Busby  – (6:41 PM)  

BCF, with all due respect, you're again making assumptions. In fact, I take offence with a group calling for the destruction of Israel and the epithets quoted, just as I'm offended by the your statement that the God of Jews, Christians and Muslims "blows goats".

And, let me tell you, I'm not offended easily.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (8:25 PM)  

Brian I do not care that I offended you - got that? and yes you do offend easily and furthermore your selective outrage offends me.

Moon Rattled  – (6:03 AM)  
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ishmaeldaro  – (9:56 PM)  

What exactly does this prove? The girl was part of some vague pro-Palestinian Facebook group... okay? How does that make her an "Israel-hater" exactly? If someone were in a group called "It's called Israel not Palestine" would you be similarly offended and call them a Palestine-hater?

None of this takes away from Ann Coulter's racist remark. This post is a pathetic attempt to smear a student and promote Coulter's hatred.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (10:35 PM)  

ishmaeldaro - Belonging to a group that calls for the destruction of Israel is a far cry from being pro-palestinian, especially a group that holds "discussions" that refer to Jews as Zionazis, Subhuman and Kikeroaches.

As I have said before - you and other "defenders" of Fatima do us all a great service by failing to acknowledge this hypocrisy. With friends like you as they say...

By the way Ann's remark wasn't racist - you're a liar.

Clark  – (10:43 PM)  

Cat Fur, I've addressed that several times. Fatima did not participate in those discussions. It is very likely that she did not know that they were occurring. She does not hate Jews and she does not approve of racist, derogatory terms (obviously).

Right, and saying that we should invade all the Muslim countries, kill their leaders, and convert the people to "christianity"" isn't blatantly hateful.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (10:46 PM)  

Clark this is a pattern repeated over and over again within the Muslim community, "none of em ever knows nothin".

People just don't buy that anymore, with good reason.

Clark  – (10:50 PM)  

Do have any friends that aren't middle-class caucasians?

Blazing Cat Fur  – (10:53 PM)  

Clark do you have any friends who don't belong to hate groups that call Jews subhuman kikeroaches like Fatima al dhaher does?

Clark  – (10:55 PM)  

None of my friends hate Jews. Answer the question.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (10:56 PM)  

Clark yes I do, what is your point?

Clark  – (10:58 PM)  

I'm just wondering how you can make such sweeping assumptions and statements such as "Allah blows goats" in good conscience.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (10:59 PM)  

Mohammed blows goats too Clark if that's any benefit to you.

Neil  – (11:18 PM)  

Great site -

I wonder - if all the "Palestinian" lovers out there are so committed to the Israelis leaving Israel - if they would be so kind as to demonstrate their commitment to their beliefs - and leave North America?

If poor little Fatima just can't stand all of the freedoms of Western society - maybe she should take the advice she gives the Israelis - and leave? She doesn't belong here, and by her own logic, should be packing.

It is great that in order for the "very intelligent" (???) Fatima's thoughtless argument to have any rational standing - that she must think that flying carpets actually exist? Does she think Coulter meant - literally - take a flying carpet?

Oh - Fatima - you are so smart - and you hate Jews! What a deal! What a beacon!

Pieface  – (8:12 PM)  

Cripes! Another manifestation of minority-group integration, expressing gracious Canadian values of egalitarianism. Perhaps I've misjudged Ms. Coulter('s audience).

nolank  – (4:11 PM)  

you call her facebook group... a hate group?! she supports Palestine over Israel. I support Coke over Pepsi, does this mean i hate Pepsi and think all those related to it should be slaughtered. Not at all, it simply means i prefer Coke. Stop taking everything to extremes.

Blazing Cat Fur  – (4:14 PM)  

Nolank or Nobrain whichever you prefer, Fatima's group calls for the destruction of Israel. Discussions take place in that group that refer to Jews as subhuman & kikeroaches. That is neither a preference for coke or pepsi , that is hatred.

verofoster  – (11:32 PM)  

truepeers, this is the cleareast,sanest, most inteligent and intelligble, argument I have ever read on this topic...oh, and did I mention realistic...I was getting ready to post a comment here but yours would make mine redundant...

nolank  – (11:32 PM)  

you call her facebook group... a hate group?! she supports Palestine over Israel. I support Coke over Pepsi, does this mean i hate Pepsi and think all those related to it should be slaughtered. Not at all, it simply means i prefer Coke. Stop taking everything to extremes.

KyleD4  – (11:32 PM)  

I never said that I hated Israel and the Jews. All I am saying is that you shouldnt say things like Goat-Blower to a person you don't even know.

You know you have no life when you blog about dissing a 17 year old girl

precious.neraa  – (11:32 PM)  

OK, All you people out there stalking her facebook groups and profile, get a life. Fatima is a very strong and talented girl. The fact that she's 17 and everyone is making a big deal about it, most people should be embarassed because they can't even compare their knowledge to hers. Most 17 year olds whether boy or girl are too busy in their soial lives rather than what is really going on around the world. Fatima has strong beliefs and stood up for what she thinks is right just like everyone else is doing right now...including Ann. And about the facebook group..There is a diffrerence between Jews and Isreal, Fatima is not a racist but just like Ann lost a friend on 9/11, you never know, she might've had a friend or family member that has been killed by an Isreali soldier. Just be knowledgable about what's really going on around the world before you comment.

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