If the Shiksa Fits....
Update: Shiksa vs. Pedophile
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Bernie meet Petard...again
The Canadian Jewish Congress is once again hoist by their own politically correct petard. First Bernie went apoplectic over the inclusion of Nazis among the newly annointed victim groups designated by the Toronto Police Services Board. Well now the CJC has got bigger concerns and they've filed a complaint.
“non Jewish Shikse” has also been added by the board and the CJC is having none of it - well none that we have actual photo's of.... yet.
From the CJC complaint:
"Finally, it should be observed that the term “shikse” is sometimes used as a pejorative. As such we believe it is inappropriate for inclusion in a report issued by the Toronto Police Service."
Sometimes? Bernie it's always used as a pejorative, and that's why it's in the report, and why the CJC wants it out, but you knew that, hypocrite; "Shiksa is the "N" word of the Jewish community. It is so often used jokingly that we can forget that it's a vile, sexist, racist word."
The CJC, in all its arrogant stupidity, has always believed they could manage the hate crime laws, after all they helped create them. Now that golem is out of control and they find themselves "neck deep in shiksa". What's the world coming to when the CJC can no longer use their favourite term for a gentile woman of "easy virtue" or otherwise unsavoury character? Take my advice Bernie, this is not a hill to die on, before you embark on yet another fool's crusade ask yourself: What will the goyim say?
The tables are now turning and the politically correct speech codes so beloved by the CJC are proving to be a double edged sword that will increasingly be used against Jews. I wonder if Bernie and the boys will have a change of heart about censorship? Not a chance, the CJC will carry on as the Pied Piper of Political Correctness leading the Jewish community to a modern day Masada of Multicultural Madness.
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The CJC - keeping youthful dreams alive and ensuring the community has the right to know what you're talkin about when that incompetent secretary comes up for discussion. Shiksophobia be damned!
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Updates below:
One of Canada's Premier Shiksa's responds: Cops tell Bernie and friends to stop hating on me. Kinda.
Hello Dali!
Bernie and friends stomping all over our shiksa “victim” rights
A reader comments: "I think the police need to add another term to their hate-list - Jewish Princess or JAP. Have you ever heard it used as a positive descriptor? I'm tired of hearing Jewish girls and women referred to as JAPS and the next time I hear it, I'm dialing 911."
Film Of Hate Crime Against The Shikse Community!
Here's The CJC Complaint
CJC Free Speech Shikse
HA_HA_HA
No doubt, the road to hell is truly paved with good intentions.
MEMO TO BERNIE,
One word, - Golem.
And another, -Putz!
I'm confused. Did the police just describe a victim as a shiksa? Or was the hate crime being called a shiksa?
I was told by a Jewish person that shiksa wasn't always an insult.
That was pretty funny BCF. But was is even funnier is that the CJC letter to the cops was well-written and asks some serious questions.
Thanks for linking the letter. Its kind of a follow-up on a National Post editorial of last week that also pointed out how strange these new "victim group" categories are. I will see if I can find it.
Meanwhile at least those who follow your blog will see a well reasoned letter that the cops will have to think about pretty carefully.
Bullshit Chapel, the CJC doesn't want the term included because they know it reflects poorly on the Jewish community and they know it will be used against them, nothing more to it than that.
J The Police Services Board included "shiksa" as a new "victim" group. The term is widely used publicly, particulary in a humourous context, but it's always a pejorative no matter how mild the context of a given instance of usage.
So, someone called someone a "shiksa" and she cried "I'm not Jewish!", how dare you! And the cop took it all down straight. And Bernie doesn't know how to stand up for the Yids slanging. Maudite Tabernouche Torranno Feh!
It seems to me that while "shiksa" has a "dirty" connotation in the original Yiddish, that doesn't necessarily mean it's simply pejorative. It's often used to refer to sexual beauty, i.e. to something sacred (humanly, and not specifically Jewishly, sacred) and the sacred is always paradoxical, both attractive and dangerous.
BCF I know you are smarter than this. Read the letter. Any reasonably intelligent person will agree that its points are well reasoned. Can you not admit that under our anti-hate legislation and given the points in the letter, it is at best questionable and at worst ridiculous to add victim categories like "Shiksa" and "Nazi"?
I know you are no fan of the hate laws but they are what they are and in that context until these laws are repealed the letter is fair and to the point.
Honestly man I try to follow your thinking and from time to time I even agree with you. I honestly thought you were being ironic here but are you telling me you're serious? Can't be!
I'll buy that Tru for you;) Still It's necessary to point out the appalling hypocrisy of the Canadian Jewish Congress.
Truekeepers, I think you and others are missing the point. Its not the word that is the probelm, its the fact that the Toronto police believe that "Shiksa" is a new victim group. The CJC letter makes that quite clear and gives ample evidence of how crazy that is.
No Chapel I wouldn't call it questionable, rather I would call it inevitable.
Chapel,
You can try to read the letter straight all you want. But the important point it seems to me is that laws like this necessarily devolve into this kind of silliness. Everyone wants to be a victim under this kind of legal regime and damn it, if he called me a shiksa then damn it I have the right to sick the cops on him. What, you think I'm not protected because I'm not jewish! Not in Canada, boyo.
No Chapel that isn't it at all, the CJC is hoping like hell to control the hate speech laws to their advantage. It was an idiots gambit to begin with and now their misguided efforts have come back to bite them on the ass.
Looks good on em I say.
One police force in the country seems to have made an error in judgement. The CJC made its case well and I would be surprised if the complaint does not result in a change.
Truekeepers, try reading the hate laws. Try understanding the definition of a victim group. I'm not saying you have to like it but they make a pretty compelling case that the Toronto police simply got it wrong.
So instead of shooting from the lip, read the letter and the citations. Don't allow your own personal dislikes overtake your common sense.
The CJC has jumped the shark...
This letter is so full of shit and hyposhite the stench is making my eyes water...
They well and truly have Van Grungy, and despite the pathtic spin efforts of the Chapels they have once again exposed themselves as censorship crazed buffoons.
It's not the language that needs to be cleaned up, it's the mind-set.
I'm just loving the absurdity of it all Pieface, if nothing else this should prove that the hate crime Genie is never going back in the bottle. It isn't as if the CJC weren't warned.
Given that most if not all of Jacob's wifes/concubines could be classified as 'shiksa', this is all just funny. How do I say that? Somewhere in all the verbiage surrounding this issue is the comment that the two concubines were non-Jewish (or equivalent). And given Rachel took her father's gods with her when they all left, it doesn't sound as if she and Rachel were good monotheists either.
I've always liked the term "Jewish Rabbi". "Non-Jewish Shiksa" has a similarly redundant charm.
Okay, as a gentile girl, I hereby declare that me and my kind need space to heal; "schiksa" is now our word (honestly, I had never realized it was even mildly pejorative, but then I'm just a dumb lapsed-Protestant Blonde with nice legs and loose morals. Frankly I'm pretty clueless).
Okay, so, for future reference: We schiksas get to use the word "Schiksa" amongst ourselves; Bernie Farber doesn't ever get to say it, because that would be a hate crime, and I'd have to go straight to the HRC.
To recap: I'm reclaiming the word schiksa; this empowers me, it makes me feel whole.
Um... any questions?
I celebrate your empowerment Black Mamba!
My understanding of the term through literature, the movies etc is that it has always been a pejorative - a sort of nudge nudge wink wink manner of referring to a non-jewish woman as how shall we say... being of "easy virtue".
Thanks, BCF.
[They told me they valued my opinions about current events and really liked my taste in music ;-( ]
;-(
something is missing form this discussion:
first, 'shiksa,' 'shegetz' and even 'goy' don't mean the N word. they mean 'massa' or sometimes 'yaz bozz.'
'mishigoyim,' as we all know means 'crazy-ass white folks.'
in addition, these words (with the exception of 'mishigoyim,' which is always appropriate), are never properly used as a substitute for 'righteous gentile' unless the gentile in question stops being righteous and starts raping and killing our children. they are also the customary responses to the greeting, 'kike' or 'dirty jew' ( the punch in the face is optional).
thus eva braun would be the consummate shiksa.
these are terms of indignation, not hate.
all that aside, the irony here isn't the toronto cops' latest surreal pronouncement or even mr. farber's convoluted response to it, but the fact that burny can't or won't see that this is exactly the outcome that he has been asking for all this time.
sorry about the long post.
This and worse will come King Vista, it is the inevitable outcome of this tragic game.
Two things about this.
1) Idiocy such as this (and making shicksa a verboten word is truly idiotic) is implied by the mere existence of the Human Rights Commissions and specifically called for in the wording of Section 13.
2) Seeing the architects of this bloody foolishness being gored by it is -awesome-. I can't think of a better outcome that to have the HRC machine swing around and run Bernie Farber over like a friggin' runaway lawnmower.
Sucks eh Bernie? Should have thought of that before, dumb ass!
Phantom I think I wil do an audit of all plays etc currently running in Toronto and launch hate crime complaints should any refrerence Shiksa's, next I'll demand that all of Mordechai Richler's work be pulled from public libraries and banned from school curriculums.
I'm an Infidel. Doesn't that make me an official member of a victim group? I DEMAND the Toronto Police put my group on their list!
Me too Paul! I want an Infidel clubhouse and free government money and funding to bolster the security of my blog!
Oh and Black Mamba to aid your empowerment I did a quick web search of "shiksa", sure enough it's common meaning is understood to be pejorative. You should be rollin in the dough shortly!
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=shiksa
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861733062/definition.html
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=shiksa
http://www.wordnik.com/words/shiksa
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shiksa
http://www.mnemonicdictionary.com/word/shiksa
http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/shiksa
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/shiksa
http://www.talktalk.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/difficultwords/data/d0011309.html
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shiksa
http://www.yourdictionary.com/shiksa
http://www.answers.com/topic/shiksa
http://dictionary.sensagent.com/shiksa/en-en/
http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/shiksa.htm
http://www.lexic.us/definition-of/shiksa
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/shiksa
I'm conflicted. Mordecai Richler is the only Canadian author I actually like. Plus, didn't Elaine on Seinfeld have "schiksappeal"? Isn't that a good thing to have?
On the other hand, I have very few principles when it comes to dough, and the rollin' of me therein. D'you think Ezra would represent me?
In a heartbeat, plus you could pay his fee by bein his Shiksa! A win win all round!
Ezra's non-shiksa might object.
Well we will just have to allow them to work out their own arrangements Frances.
I personally look forward to the first hate crime prosecution of shiksaphobia.
Is there an equivalent-type word to describe a 'non-Muslima'?
Dhimmi or dead I think.
Dhimmi is not 'close enough' to 'shiksa'. It is still a pejorative, but it does not imply the same, type of a insult implied.
If, however, there IS a similar term (other than 'woman', that is) you guys ought to get your cops to add it, too.
something is missing form this discussion:
first, 'shiksa,' 'shegetz' and even 'goy' don't mean the N word. they mean 'massa' or sometimes 'yaz bozz.'
'mishigoyim,' as we all know means 'crazy-ass white folks.'
in addition, these words (with the exception of 'mishigoyim,' which is always appropriate), are never properly used as a substitute for 'righteous gentile' unless the gentile in question stops being righteous and starts raping and killing our children. they are also the customary responses to the greeting, 'kike' or 'dirty jew' ( the punch in the face is optional).
thus eva braun would be the consummate shiksa.
these are terms of indignation, not hate.
all that aside, the irony here isn't the toronto cops' latest surreal pronouncement or even mr. farber's convoluted response to it, but the fact that burny can't or won't see that this is exactly the outcome that he has been asking for all this time.
sorry about the long post.
J The Police Services Board included "shiksa" as a new "victim" group. The term is widely used publicly, particulary in a humourous context, but it's always a pejorative no matter how mild the context of a given instance of usage.
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