Coren on Ontario's Perverse Sex Ed Curriculum...National Post Admits It's No Longer A Conservative Paper...Still Faces Hate Crimes Complaint
Update: Brian Lilley - MSM Mocks Parents Concerns Over McGuinty's Perverse Ontario Sex Ed Curriculum
National Post apologizes for running transphobic ad
"In an open letter to the National Post, Cliks lead singer Lucas Silveira writes that he is asking the Ontario Human Rights Commission to pursue a hate propaganda investigation against the Post and the Institute for Canadian Values over the ad. Current interpretations of Canadian human rights legislation tend to exclude consideration of advertisements in the media, according to Silveira's lawyer."
An apology from the National Post
Can A Parent Have Their Child Accommodated Out Of Human Rights Education Based On Religious Grounds?
"No. "Religious accommodation" in the TDSB is carried out in the larger context of the secular education system. While the TDSB works to create a school system free from religious discrimination, this freedom is not absolute. The TDSB will limit practices or conduct in its schools that may put public safety, health, or the human rights and freedoms of others at risk.
As well, the TDSB will limit practices or conducts in its schools that are in violation of its other policies. For example, if a parent asks for his or her child to be exempted for any discussions of LGBTQ family issues as a religious accommodation, this request cannot be made because it violates the Human Rights Policy. Furthermore, this is consistent with the ideal that human rights education is an essential strategy for preventing human rights abuses." Pg. 10
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You can bet this isn't being taught at the TDSB's Valley Park Middle School Mosqueteria...Remember when "Heterosexism" used to be called Normal?
TDSB Equity & Inclusive Curriculum
I think what the National Post meant by that apology was that it hates people like me subscribing to it and wish I, among others, would stop.
The NP makes me sick -- We have only Sun TV to count on.
Sounds like the progressives are taking their cue from Huxley's novel 'Brave New World'.
One of teachers greatest complaints is 'irresponsible parents' who are negligent in teaching their children 'life skills', so my question is why do teachers continue to ENABLE these so called negligent parents by taking over their responsibilities for them then?
I have a a very knowledgeable friend in this area who counsels transvestites, cross dresser's and the transgendered who work the streets. Without exception all were given the message directly or indirectly that their parent(s) wanted a child of a the opposite gender - most were dressed in the opposite gender's clothing and then received positive reinforcement/acceptance; further, over 90% were sexually abused by a family member or family friend. All suffered serious emotional and/or mental abuse. People do not choose this life to begin with. The exception is hermaphrodites who are truly gender confused.
Too much state interference in society equals a overly passive society
Right. If parents aren't going to do what they should be doing as parents, no one else should do the heavy lifting. I believe this sort of laziness enables those who would gladly prey on children.
A Rational Fear of Islamism
Is fear of terrorists inspired by Islam irrational? There have been 17,800 terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims in the name of Allah since 9/11. Is it unreasonable to be concerned that 30,000 shoulder-ready surface-to-air missiles have recently gone missing in the Muslim nation of Libya, where both government and rebels support the Islamic jihad against America and the West?
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/278722/rational-fear-islamism-robert-spencer?page=1
I'll say this much for Saudi Arabia, they probably aren't teaching their 1st graders to wonder whether they are a trangendered, two-spirited, intersexual. If we lose the clash of civilizations, it'll be because of the 5th column that is poisoning future generations with this crap, while teaching acceptance of the hate that comes of of the Islamic world.
That's pretty much it in a nutshell have a look at the Voren Douglas vid.
The TDSB curriculum is more porperly referred to as grooming.
I agree children have been surrendered to an immoral state.
I have no idea why they would grovel as they did.
I think that is precisely the message they wished to convey.
Yes, the irresponsible parent bit is just an excuse to indoctrinate our children. The truly irresponsible parents are the progressives who allow 4 and 5 year old children to be sexualized prematurely.
Irrational? Nope.
Between this and the push to legitimize pedophilia, I fear for the future of our children.
Then next week, the child tells the teacher: "Daddy said I should tell you not to lie to me. And if you touch me, you will be intending something dirty which will hurt me."
Cheers
Same old, same old, only the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, two-spirited crowd are pushing much harder than they used to (if you know what I mean).
I was having this discussion 20 years ago when my children were in the public school system. Good luck -- or should I say, God bless -- Theresa Pierre. She and her group are on an increasingly small ice flow, as most parents a) have no idea what their children are being taught in school, because they're too busy working for dollar$ and partying and/or b) if they do know, have no cojones to argue with the curriculum if they disagree with it or have no problem that their kids are being introduced to and indoctrinated into homosexual sexual practices.
The thinking is, that the GLBT crowd have rights that the rest of us don't: Their agenda is to be encouraged and funded, whereas those of us with objections, on any grounds whatsoever, don't count.
I'm going to cancel my subscription to the National Post. What disgusting, anti-freedom of speech toadies they are. The whole world, it seems, is being turned upside down for the "rights" of a tiny group of activists who have made their sexual identity and activities the most important thing about them. If you don't agree with them, they feel perfectly within their rights to be nasty to you and stomp all over your freedom of speech rights.
'More than a whiff of sulfur here -- and we consider the Aztecs and Mayans uncivilized because of their practice of child sacrifice.
I'm gonna show my age here, but I remember when certain items in the sex education curriculum first required signed parental approval before children were allowed to partake in the education. And I'm not talking about discussions of transgender BS or anal or oral sex.
In the name of "progress" parental rights have been removed.
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Actually Blaze I think you’re onto something if this legislation goes through and is only being taught at selective schools this would be the wake up call that is needed. Right now with the Mosqueteria it is a small section of people that are being effected, but this turns the tables now suddenly this lunacy is effecting a huge amount of the silent majority and just what is needed to motivate that group to finally clean up the nut jobs in power starting with the dhimmis at the TDSB
My word, it is simply uncanny
What can happen should one remark on a tranny.
Saying, "There's old Chastity Bono,"
Is a societal no-no
In a state that's your master and nanny.
Thanks
What would be an example of hate propaganda in a Canadian context?
Um perhaps I'm a wee bit thick this mornen, but what exactly is offensive about the advert? I mean it's true, the social tinkers tell us gays and two spirited WTF propagandists are born that way and then demand they teach children that are NOT that way how to be that way. Grooming pure and simple, I'd love to see parents form a organization and take on the progessives publicly and in a court of law.
The below link to a NP article could easily be published in the Toronto Star or on the CBC website:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/09/30/angry-mob-in-saskatchewan-assails-rcmp-ambulance-crew/
I think the TDSB position that all children will be taught this program and the parents have no say about it will only increase the distrust between the TDSB and parents. If the TDSB refuses to openly schedule the sex ed classes then parents will push for class rooms to be monitored by video cameras.
You might want to rethink your last comment. The canadian judiciary is (or at least seems to be) on par with the leftist "progressive" ideology.
excellent comment
I will be calling the Post to cancel my subscription.
I guess they don't really care for the opinions of people who actually pay for their newspaper.
LOL
I just cancelled my subscription. And also left a message on their forums indicating the same.
If you do not mind which forum, I'd like to read it.
The Mosqueteria school will probably do the tranny grooming on Friday afternoons when the Muslims kids aren't in class.
Ha!
Good for you.
Ann those pushing this course bother me it's like they've decided gender identity disorder should be taught to children as some kind of new gaia genders.
Here you go Anne,
It's the readers comments attached to the apology itself.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/09/30/an-apology-from-the-national-post/
"Thank you for finally abandoning whatever little pretense you maintained
of being a newspaper that represented Conservative values.
There was nothing wrong in the Ad and it represented accurately what the TDSB is trying to do to our children.
I just callled in to cancel my print subscription and I am sure there will be many more like me.
Remember, if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.
Goodbye from this long time subscriber."
Coren, Levant, Geller, Shaidle, Steyn, All of them true champions!
Vive la verite!
Down with the Oligarchy!
Excellent comment.
http://www.ndp.ca/commissions
Cheers
I think the NP just killed their paper. As Kate says on SDA "pleasing your enemies will not make them friends."
This is why Homosexuality was banned from most cultures in History. Its disruptive of normal society.
Promotes indecency & is obsessive about only one thing. Its sexual practices. It has no other purpose.
The Bible explains this behavior is sent as a Judgment against wicked societies. I can well see why. Normative human relations become stained by this groups hate & advocacy for anything perverted.
A fo those who practice this in silence. At least they are harming only themselves, not the entire society. It their Philosophy transmuted into a distorted psychology laden ideology, that sexualized all people into spurious categories, that disgusts me the most.
Collectivists with just a one note mentality.
Well-said, sanwin. There was nothing wrong with the ad.
What the National Post has done is allow a tiny, tiny minority -- very active, however -- to, apparently, blackmail them into this apology. One wonders what they threatened if the National Post didn't issue this appalling apology.
The National Post speaks with forked tongue. On the one hand, they assert that they "[believe] strongly in the principles of free speech and open, unhindered debate" and that "unpopular points of view should not be censored simply because some readers may find them disturbing, or even offensive" and then they "apologize unreservedly to anyone who was offended by [the ad]."
I guess they're counting on the abysmal, dumbed-down language skills of too many of their readers who, they think, will be unable to recognize the mutual exclusivity of these various statements.
'One more Canadian media outlet bullied, dhimmied, and shot down in flames. Thank God for Sun Media. 'Bye, bye National Post.
makes me glad i send my kids to private school
Our Children are being brainwashed by these crazy leftwing/liberal,socialists now at the youngest age ever,with THEIR VALUES AND DOGMA! One day they will be our future and what a BITTER HARVEST IT BE !!! It is bad enough they are doing this but for them to tell parents they have no more say in what or how our kids are taught is disgraceful and a shameful abuse of the trust we have put in them. IT MUST BE STOPPED, before it's too late and home schooling is no longer an option,nor any religious schooling!
Oh crap, there goes the Post. A truthful protest against an offensive truth is 'offensive'. Linked.
The NP may feel that way about Free Speech, not their writers and editors, Jkay and Chris Selley went after Michael Coren becuase he dared interview Pamela Geller.
I don't blame you.
Sad day isn't it.
What a bunch of gutless sellouts. I have been a subscriber to the National Post from their first day.Had to call yesterday to cancel. Made sure I told the nice man on the phone why.
They are now yesterday news. Dead trees,brain dead editors. Have fun marching off the cliff with the Toronto Star and New York Times.
Poor Canada, viewed from exile, a sorry remnant of the decent Chrsitian British North America some of us fonldy recall. Expat opinion from our tropical blog.
http://rossrightangle.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/canadas-conservative-national-post-in-gay-grovel-mode/
Thanks will check it out
Thanks and I agree with Batb's post below.
You know if Kathleen Wynne was an extreme coupon clipper, the school children would all be coupon clipping, trading and shopping.
A primary goal of the homosexual agenda is to promote the lifestyle in public schools...therefore it`s obvious the TDSB is on board with this , and is promoting the homo agenda , trying to indoctrinate our children into this filthy way of life.
It`s time parents take direct action against this brainwashing in our school system or our children will be lost to us.
The point is, BCF, that although the NP says that they support free speech and that "unhindered" debate should proceed whether or not someone is offended, they apologized "unreservedly" for an ad that offended the GLBT crowd.
Jonathan Kay and Chris Selley are certainly entitled to their opinion in the NP -- but if they're piling on Michael Coren simply because he interviewed Pamela Geller with whose agenda they disagree, then they're bona fide members of the forked-tongue brigade.
Our media is crashing and burning when it comes to open, untrammeled-by-political-correctness, opinion and debate. Too many people are making too much money, with which they're enjoying lifestyles to which they've become accustomed.
The victims? Truth and our ability to live in a civil, law-abiding, and morally serious society.
This is the reason I stayed home with my husband's and my children. This is the reason they didn't go into daycare at six months, then after-school programs when they got older.
My husband and I wanted me and him to be the first educators of our children, not a daycare worker (in my experience, often leftist single moms), a nanny, or a babysitter.
Because my energies weren't split between work and home, I was able to concentrate on what my children were bringing home from school which, oftentimes, I didn't appreciate. Because I couldn't get fired from a job for speaking out, I did speak out. And, I talked to my kids about the poison they were being taught, always providing a factually accurate "alternative" to the anti-Christian, anti-British pap they were being fed.
Unfortunately, too many parents weren't able to monitor what their children were learning in school, or just didn't care, and so the leftwing/liberal/socialist brainwashing of Canadian children has continued apace through the '80s and '90s and into the present.
"If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything" could be the motto of the past few generations of parents. Their children's ignorance and enslavement to the State are the logical consequences of their lack of vigilance.
It is a well-known fact that Kathleen Wynne is a lesbian, something that she is open about. I wonder if her status as a member of the GBLT community has had anything to do with the promotion of the gay agenda in our public schools?
Being gay, on the one hand, and actively pushing the lifestyle in public schools, on the other, are two different things.
It is scandoulus BatB but the MSM are in Cahoots with these groomers.
The NP is struggling to find an identity, they have chosen the wrong path by encouraging these faux conservatives.
Tell ya what saintecroix, you provide a working definition of "THE homosexual agenda" and "THE lifestyle" (emphasis mine in bth cases) and I will check to see if any of my many gay and lesbian neighbours (especially the three closest couples - one down the block, one that's one street over and the other across the street from me - each of whom has been together as a couple going on 35-40 years - all more than 30 at any rate) have any commonality with what you come up with.
'Cuz to the best of my knowledge, they don't have a lot of spare time for any agendas except their work, and from my own observation they all lead "lifestyles" that are quite different from each of the other couples. In fact I don't see much commonality in attitudes, opinions, habits or really anything other than that they all have partners of the same sex.
I even held a barbeque for a bunch of neighbours once, and invited the six of them, thinking they would all get to know each other and probably hang out in a little clump in ur backyard. Nope. My husband even remarked that my plan was a complete failure. Each couple, beyond pleasant hellos when I did the intros, had more to say to the neighbours they already knew than to each other. So much for the feeling if conformity and solidarity of purpose... and that secretive clubby cabal of likeminded conspirators I was expecting.
Now just in case you need a head start, let me just mention that in the one couple - two lesbians - one is a highly regarded pediatric oncologist (children's cancer) and the other is in a lawyer- she's in-house counsel for a bank she arranges the deals to finance Canadian hi-tech start-ups.
Of the two male couples, one has one partner who is in something to do with the RCMP's organized crime squad. All I know is he looks like a big mean non-smiley guy and does not discuss work in great detail. His partner is a police detective (homicide) for a large police force, and plays electric guitar for fun in a really, really bad band that does really bad covers of 70s rock. Really bad. Trust me. I know. I've heard them play.
The other male couple has a university physics professor, soon to retire, and his partner is some kind of engineer turned sales type for large scale water handling and hydraulic equipment that has him going to all kinds of countries to sell and then supervise installations.
About the only thing they all seem to have in common is a health distrust of the impact of Islam (except for one, who thinks we're all too paranoid about this and that the real problem is Jamaican crime gangs), a propensity to bemoan how much tax they are paying and agreement with me that the fabled CRTC "Do Not Call" list doesn't really work very well.
One obsesses on working on his vintage car, one is totally OCD on how mant airline points she is building up on business trips, the sullen one is a ocuch potato who doesn't do much but watch NFL and NBA games when he's not working and one of them has a garage full of beer and wine and "firewater" making projects in process. Two of the couples have children from earlier hetero marriages who they see at least as often as the hetero parents in my area see their own grown children. There are at least a couple of grand-children in each case, and judging by photos on walls, websites and Facebook sites, everyone seems to be on fairly civil (or better) terms with their respective former spouses.
It's sort of disappointing. I was expecting things to be spicier, more exotic, have the whiff or a lot of decadence and depravity. But actually it's all rather boring and domestic.
Anyway, really looking forward to your news on the (NB - singular) agenda and the (NB singular) lifestyle front! 'K thanks!
You may wish to read this Su - Can We Please Just Start Admitting That We Do Actually Want To Indoctrinate Kids?
http://www.queerty.com/can-we-please-just-start-admitting-that-we-do-actually-want-to-indoctrinate-kids-20110512/
While your friends sound like swell folks there is no denying a significant radical element exists.
There's definitely a fringe element to any movement, but having read that writer's very strident, very American rhetoric, and the comments that followed, I didn't come away with a greater concern for what the TDSB has in mind. I think its age inappropriate but bumped up to middle or high school, once the kids can actually read and write legibly and know how to add, I can see some class time being spent on some of the issues, if only because kids in those age groups can be especially beastly toward anyone who does not immediately fit in.
I would just say that the religious minority kids will not get an automatic pass from this ciricculum, and that the REAL fireworks will come when they start asking for exemptions and the word gets out.
Very interesting to learn about Baron Von Steuben and Alan Turing however. Their respective contributions toward establishing and saving the free world ought to be more widely known.
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