Bishop of Pittsburgh: "The Obama administration has just told the Catholics of the United States, “To Hell with you!”
HHS Edict Will Force Catholics to Violate Conscience
By Bishop David A. Zubik
"It is really hard to believe that it happened. It comes like a slap in the face. The Obama administration has just told the Catholics of the United States, “To Hell with you!” There is no other way to put it".
Well said. h/t Jack
Yet the progressives will cry foul that religion should not interfere with government, when the government interferes with religion all the time. If there is true seperation between religion and government, then the government should not be able to interfere in the Catholic Sacrement of marriage, and dictate who the Catholics believe should be allowed to partake in their rituals. But they do.
I'm pretty much a secular pro-choice guy, but this goes much further than I would like. I say get the feds outta the whole game.
That is an excellent point Clausewitz.
Yes! Either you believe , and behave accordingly, or you don't. I'm pro-choice, and I would never soil a Christian Mass with my presence, unless a parishioner invited me with a full understanding of my position.
The Feds do not belong here at all.
That being said, I accord Christians much more respect then Muslims. As a matter of fact, I don't think a mosque can be soiled more than it already is. Islam preaches hatred and war, Christianity preaches love.
First the Jews and now the Catholics.
It's the end of the world, the civilized world as we have known it.
Allow me to state some sad facts: Nukes exist. Eventually, someone will use them. 10, 20, 50 100 years, who knows? I can safely say whoever uses them first will win.
Separation of Church and State -- which, BTW, is not a principle in Canadian politics -- was always to protect religious freedoms from coercion by the State.
Our uneducated and cretinous pols, so-called "educators," and media have no idea.
So now, we will see the separation of the sheep from the goats, the believers from the unbelievers and the "church goers." I believe we are experiencing the rising of the sign of the Beast of which The Book of Revelation speaks.
Kyrie eleison.
Obama is the Anti-Christ - well at least a wannabe minion.
I can not remember any President as divisive as Obama. No hope and no change.
makes me think about that time when Pope John Paul II kissed the quran.. I don't know why, but it does..
Don't Islamists say "first the Saturday people, then the Sunday people"?
Here's atrivia question for fellow commentators: Who was the last major politician to impose conscious-violating legislation on Catholic healthcare professionals in the name of so-called "reproductive freedom"?
Here's a couple clues: He was also a Democrat. He also ruled from Chicago.
Yep, former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich.
There's an old expression in the Church that bodes ill for kings who tamper in the affairs of the Church. It is: "He who eats of the Pope will surely choke on him."
Blago? Well that may be a good omen;)
So...perhaps all the Catholic organizations can fight back.
Perhaps...shut down their service and charitable organizations. After all, the government seems to say they know better - so let them sow the results of their faulty ideology.
A plan that would play directly into certain hands I suspect.
To correct you Blazing, Obumma is "an" anti-christ, IE: just one of many.
The bishop said that never before, this is in fact incorrect, in the Bible it talks about the ba'al worshipers who made their children walk through the sacrificial fires ie: burnt up, this is the same as the pro-abortion worshipers, the fetus does not get a burial, the remains get thrown out with the "hazardous medical waste" to be burnt in "medical insineraters".
What we see here is precicely ba'al worshiping in full action in todays world, just its gone global. Honour murders, pre-birth murders, post natal murders, uthenasia, sterilisation of undesirables, attacks on pro-lifers, attacks on religions.
Those who fail to learn from history are cursed to repeat it. But hey, thats hate speach right?
Heh;)
No, it's who uses the last nuke will be the winner. Start hording your sticks and stones for WW IV though.
You definitely have no understanding of New Testament Christianity or Charity at all. Most Christians do not believe in Charity for personal gain, nor would they use it as a lever. The only ones who would be hurt are those in need of help. The government would only use your tactic as a way to regulate religion.
No, that's Santayana.
What did they think a Marxist Muslim would do. Bow to them like the Saudi prince?
I grew up in Pittsburgh and went to the Catholic university there (Duquesne University). Pennsylvania is supposed to be a key state in Obama's plans for a 2012 victory. The Catholics congregate in the two pro-Democrat party cities: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
If the Calilics can lobby and organize successfully against Obama, then there is a good chance this hard-left president will lose the state. Yes Penssylvania is a rust-belt state, with a declining population, but it still carries a large # of electoral votes. I hope the Catholics can organize. I agree that Obama care represents a complex web of bureaucratic rules to stifle Catholic beliefs. I hope Obama gets burned by this.
wars and rumours of wars.. brother against his brother ..obamanation ,= , arab spring, occupy capiltalism..judicial break down. bowing to saudis just a coincedence ? I know it is all and everything to do with the powers of darkness . , issacc.. christian..catholic ..jew.. ishmael ..anti love anti christ..anti life.. only prayer and seeing his spirit move .wether your a christian a secularist or a unbeliever.. I pray for you..
Micheal, You would be welcome to attend a Christian Mass with me at any time the spirit moved you (so to speak). Your presence, regardless of your beliefs, could not soil a Christian Mass. It's bigger than that.
We don't (usually) take a survey at the door to keep folks out. All are welcome.
Just look at some of the ne'er-do-wells Jesus ate with...
Not a smart move in an election year if your hoping to get a second term as President
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