Shafia Murders: CBC Finds Apologist Who Implies Canada Racist & Just Like Islamist Hell Holes
Leave it to the CBC to dig up Alia Hogben, Islamist apologist for the Canadian Council of Muslim Woman, who implies that interest in the Shafia honour killings is driven by racism and that Canada is no different than Islamist Hell Holes.
"Would there have been such a hullabaloo about this case if this had been non-immigrant, non-Afghani, non- Muslim people..." Damn Racists!
The Shafia murders are due to: "a patriarchy, a tribal patriarchy which exists in all cultures and it still exists in Canada" Cuz Canada is just like your everyday, run of the mill Islamist Crap-Hole nation.
It is lost on Ms. Hogben that these murders would not have happened in Canada had we not let in the very people we were trying to kill in Afghanistan.
FiveFeet Asks: "If Mark Lepine, the Muslim who committed the Montreal Massacre, had lived & gone to trial, would the CBC have had a Men's Rights spokesman on to give their side of the story?"
What the judge said: "It is difficult to conceive of a more despicable, more heinous, more honourless crime," Justice Robert Maranger said in court after the verdict was delivered Sunday. "The apparent reason behind these cold-blooded, shameful murders was that the four completely innocent victims offended your completely twisted concept of honour...that has absolutely no place in any civilized society."
What the CBC says...
The CBC Poll asks: Do you agree with the Shafia Verdict? Seriously they asked that.
Wow. Yeah just wow. What a damn loonbat...but now we know the source of all canadian loonies.
I notice the Muslim obfuscator couldn’t bring up one example of any other honour killings that were not Muslim to back up her deflecting statement.
Better question; would it even have happened if it weren't an anti-woman, hateful religion?
No.
Sigh.
Yea the CBC;)
Leave it to the CBC
Related: https://twitter.com/#!/soundofmusak/status/163760013435875328 CBC poll asking: "Do you agree with the Shafia verdict?"
I will answer your question in the post with an update.
CBC read my print here! carefully and slowly. This is not femicide. yes woman were killed, but they were not killed soley because they were women... they were killed because Ma and Pa El Kettle here did not want them dating Canadian style 21st century style that you see, brought "shame" upon 2 adults and brother of 3 girls. Shame means HONOUR KILLINGS!
She could barely bring herself to mention Islam.
To: Miss Hogpen
Fr: Miss Trixie
STFU and STFD.
That is all.
That's because honour killings exist in the broad spectrum of all religions.
Silly MuniMula.
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Ha! re-tweeted.
How about linking to the poll. We can all join in then.
*Facepalm* Why does the government still throw over a billion dollars into this sinkhole?
Oh? Please supply chapter and verse of other-than-Muslim honour killings.
Here's the link:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2012/01/do-you-agree-with-the-shafia-verdict.html
Lord only knows why.
I think you may have missed my sarc tag. :)
To get to the very base of this heinous act.. this is an APOSTATE killing..
use that correct term all the time.. correct people that use the term 'honour killing' by explaining why the act of killing betrayers/renegades of islam is about apostasy first and foremost..
I would love it if the SUNNN would use this precise term to describe this kind of murder from now on.. that would be a giant step as the SUNNN is getting major interest from 'sick of the MSM' Americans looking for a real conservative factual news network..
I'm really on the edge of saying something irresponsible, so I'll just say that Alia Hogben seems to be channeling the dead Joseph Gobbels to get her justification of murder 'spin' going.
What a contemptible woman!
Better question. Would this happen if we would stop letting this muslim filth into our country? The answer is NO!
That's ridiculous. That Pickton serial killer case is still getting publicity in BC because the police were so damn slow to find the guy. It was on the local radio on Friday-- police apologizing for their incompetence. Don't get me started on that one.
You're right - I did miss it. Am too used to seeing Muslim apologists using just this line of reasoning.
If it walks like a duck...
This could very well be the wedge issue that destroys CBC, it's concern for the feelings of the misogynists in the Muslim commuity over Canadian's feelings can be used as a weapon against those apologists for evil.
I like it VanG;)
Got it and have voted. Don't think the results are the way the CBC wants ;-)
It is lost on Ms. Hogben that these murders would not have happened in Canada had we not let in the very people we were trying to kill in in Afghanistan.
No I think they were hoping for a more Multicultural response.
The CBC does not represent Canadians, this is one more nail in the coffin.
right.. just will be a larger number each year
Did you follow the trial? Do you agree with the verdict? Why or why not? Share your thoughts in the comment field below.
Thank you for voting! Yes. 93.1% (6,500 votes)
No. 1.78% (124 votes)
I didn't follow the trial. 5.13% (358 votes)
Total Votes: 6,982
93.1% yes when I voted at the CBC poll. 1.77% no.
Would you like to see the CBC be defunded , why or why not ?
Share your thoughts in the comment field below
Thank you for voting! Yes. 93.1% (6,500 votes) No. 1.78% (124 votes)
I was disgusted as I listened to this interview, thanks for putting it up and exposing the CBC's blatant bias.
That says it well Miss Trixie.
There's a great quote in the WSJ report:
"Alia Hogben, executive director of the Canadian Council of Muslim Women, believes "the system" failed the three because they were treated as "exotic" minorities rather than "ordinary" Canadians. ""
The "system" didn't fail: the lame defence did, thanks to the "ordinary Canadians" on the jury who didn't fall for defence nonsense about how Afghani men blow off steam by describing their dead daughters as "whores." If anything was calculated to make them seem "exotic," it was that.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203920204577191321206664022.html
Ha! That isn't very multiculty at all!
so lame.. thankyou mr and mrs ordinary canadian
The quick verdict made MY day! :)
Having said that, lets not lose sight of the fact that there have been a number of 'honour killings' within the Sikh community as well. This isn't solely an Islamic problem.
"Oh? Please supply chapter and verse of other-than-Muslim honour killings. "
-Frances
http://thelangarhall.com/general/on-honor-killings/
I'm not going to spend time Googling names and dates; anyone who's followed the news is aware of a number of instances, especially on the West Coast.
Ok, I lied, I did Google it...
Just to be clear, they ALL make me sick; I'm not giving anyone a free pass! Life in prison is too good for these pervs.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2003/10/05/mom_gave_long_distance_order_for_honor_killing_police_say/?page=full
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/30823-indian-canadian-gets-life-term-honour.html
Jaswinder Kaur Sidhu, 24, was a B.C. native who was murdered in Punjab, India in 2000. It is alleged that her mother, Malkit Kaur Sidhu, and uncle, Surjit Singh Badesha of Maple Ridge, B.C. conspired to have Jaswinder killed as she married Sukhwinder Singh Sidhu, a rickshaw driver in India. This marriage was not approved of. India seeks the extradition of Malkit Kaur Sidhu and Surjit Singh Badesha.
Amandeep Singh Atwal, 17, was stabbed to death by her father in 2003 for dating a non-Sikh boy.
Amandeep Kaur Dhillon was killed in 2009 by her father-in-law in a Toronto-area grocery store where she worked. She had threatened to leave her husband.
We had best be very careful now, if we stay on this track, we will be a superpower in 2-3 generations. We are now Islam's worst enemy, above and beyond the USA.
CBC what a lark. Sure, all Canadians occasionally kill all their daughters for 'no real reason'. Godamned mofo effin ^%&^%(*)&^(&^$%^$*^(%%^$&%*^$%*^$%@!
I saw the poll in one of the links you had in your post. I voted that I agreed (it's unbelievable somebody would create a poll like that) a few hours ago. At the time the verdict was supported by 82%. I just went back and the supporters were 93.3% of those who voted. Only 1.76% (or 142 people) disagreed. That's 142 too many, but that's CBC.
Ya we should apologize to the Shafia's and set them free.
heh :)
What an evil bitch that Hogben is.
Blankety Blank Blanks;)
The answer is in the comments. Over 93% of Star commenters agree with the verdict. There is hope after all. Even the Star readers think that is even a stupid question to ask!
I hope Ezra Levant jumps on this issue about the evil travesty that the CBC is.
Agreed, apologize with nukes.
I hope he does.
Given the knee jerk response and logic of the LPC to the Montreal massacre, should we expect Bob Rae to request a national Lexus car registry?
Ha! good one Al.
Apostate Killing would be accurate as both males and females are murdered for accepting western culture.
Social Construct Killing came to mind. The term isn't stereotypical - it's inclusive, and completely neutral in terms of gender, race, culture, sexual orientation, religion and politics. It's politically correct and non-offensive. I'm surprised some elitist academic has not, to my knowledge, introduced the term.
Granted Social Construct Killing doesn't fit with the feminist perspective that only women are murdered for tribal reasons, most assuredly women are more likely than not to be victims, but the same set of facts didn't seem to influence the change in terminology from wife beating to the gender neutral term domestic violence.
Hogben is wrong in her assertion that reason doesn't matter. Prevention demands the reasons for these types of murders be recognized and subsequently addressed.
A rope, a rope, … a swinging rope.
Cheers
To be honest, I would rather see a dead world of nuclear fallout than an Islamic world.
Thanks! Just voted.
http://rabble.ca/news/memory-aqsa-parvez-and-future-feminism
Its Aqsa Parvez all over again. Feminists refuse to defend Muslim woman, multiculturalism once again trumps human rights.
Social workers, School councilors have more to fear from this distorted cultural relativistic mindset then help a Muslim teenager at risk.
If you intervene, and Mr. Shafia screams Isamophopia, who will defend you! No one.
Your government job will be on the line.
Yup more Babble crap here: http://rabble.ca/babble/national-news/shafia-murder-trial-reveals-negligence-and-failure-child-protection-authoritie-0
Allow me to state some sad facts: Nukes exist. Eventually, someone will use them. 10, 20, 50 100 years, who knows? I can safely say whoever uses them first will win. Deal with it.
Let's hope that the Muslim community, especially the females within that community, social workers, feminists, school teachers and counselors collaborate to seize this act of justice by our courts to prevent and eventually eradicate this barbaric practice on Canadian soil.
The first step is to admit there is a problem, the Judges comments made it clear that honor killing is a problem. It's a start. Hogben's denial is not helping Muslim men and women, who are killed due to their perceived apostasy, she seems to possibly be in denial.
We have to be very careful about that, there are Islamists who are pushing for a separate Muslim social work system, that will serve to hide the problem much like Tarek Fatah's concern about Muslim Officers on Metro's force whitewashing the Islamist death threats against him.
It is absurd to suggest the only reason the press is paying so much attention to the story is because of racism. The press always gives a lot of coverage to sensational murder trials. If this had happened in a Euro-Canadian family it would probably gotten even more attention in the media. There are certainly cases in Euro-Canadian families of a parent killing their children, but it is always (as far as I know) just ONE of the parents (usually the father) who does the killing, and usually the killer is, quite literally, insane. When this sort of thing happens there is plenty of press coverage and plenty of public outrage (especially if the killer is found insane, and they try to let him out after a few months saying he is "cured", as happened in a case in BC recently).
It seems very strange that the wife and brother would help the father carry out the killings. I can't ever remember hearing of that happening in a non-Muslim family. I still think they might have all got off if they had pleaded insanity. Thank goodness they are too crazy to try that ploy!
Those are very good points Mely which highlight the distinctive nature of honour killings.
Malarkey - Canadians were just as outraged when Allan Schoenborn murdered his three children in 2008. That trial received just as much publicity.
Thats right! One Islamist in a radio interview blamed the Shafia murders on a lack of funding to Islamic Mosque based social workers. `we know our people the best`...............those poor girls.
It will come as no surprise that certain people at WC are saying there is no such thing as " honor killings."
I'm shocked!
You can just bet that the vote whores are salivating at the prospect of buying more votes with our money to appease the Islamists, look how quickly that despicable pig McGuinty sold out the girls who attend in the Mosqueteria.
Good point - did not occur to me that a proposed solution could involve Sharia provisions. It's bizarre to, one the one hand, deny that culture is involved and then with the other hand insist on a culturally based legal remedy.
Would be terrible to see a separate social service agency and justice system for Islamic based crimes.
The weird thing is that Hogben almost makes a point there, but not the point she was going for; the girls were treated as "exotic minorities", which is why they were ignored by social services, the schools etc. when they asked for help.
You can read about Shahina Siddiqui's plans for a separate muslim social work infrastructure here - http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.com/2009/03/wonders-another-islamist-front.html
Good catch Black Mamba and what could be more exotic making than the increasing demands for a separate muslim social work system.
As Spock would say and you have ably pointed out the Islamist apologist arguments are illogical Jim.
What a crazy website.
Our national voice,the cbc,will not print any comments that suggest that islam or our immigration policy should be looked at. However,this comment is acceptable;
" The Christian Bible tells parents to stone disobedient children to death and to apply the rod. The custom of hitting and killing our children comes from religious teachings. If you attended a Catholic school in the 60s and 70s, and were active or too curious or had ADD, there was a good chance of getting a whipping, a book slammed on your head, or a chalkboard eraser thrown at you. You could get punched in the face or slapped on both ears simultaneously. You could be put in a headlock until you nearly passed out. If you were an Indian in a residential school, there was a 50% chance you'd be dead before you reached 13 years of age. What happened here is horrible, but not surprising considering our human history of contempt of children."
The comment is by "Mr Mom" (really) at 8:43 p.m.
That is as messed up as the woman in the video.
I read that, amazing who reads the CBC ain't it;)
Keep your friends close,and your enemies closer.
I put in a polite reply to Mr. Mom's drool about an hour ago,asking for a reference or two to his claims.
CBC,peace be upon them, recognized my hate even though I didn't, and did not print it. They are wise .
Wow. Just wow. The CBC is delusional.
And we were even more outraged when he was found criminally insane and sent to a hospital instead of jail, and then the psychiatrists decided after one year to give him day passes. There was so much public outcry that the government stopped the day pass scheme.
BC - where the lunatics run the asylum.
Good grief. They want separate Muslim EVERYTHING. Is it not clear now that Muslims will never be able to fit into Western culture? Why do we keep letting them into our Western countries?
You should stay away from that place. They are lunatics.
The CBC is full of people who write the Bernardo's of the world, love letters.
Its never the killers fault, always societies.
Why they admire these monsters, only the Devil understands.
The good news is the overwhelming majority of human beings including their leftist buddies disagree.
True on all counts. He was also given a day pass to visit someplace, forget exactly where, that was in very close proximity to the ex.
Tell them to refer to them as apostate killings then as VanG suggested.
If our government allows Muslims a separate social services, many more young Muslim men and women will die.
Can you imagine what would've happened had these young women been sent to such a social service agency?
That's like referring children to the gallows. Yup, Send the girls off to an even stricter Muslim home with ultra compliant Muslim children to teach them the way, and then they will be relieved that they don't have it as bad as some Muslim children or what - send them to Saudi Ara for rehab? Do social workers and the police not get that it's their own culture they're afraid of - sheesh.
Siddiqui admits the Muslim way of doing things is very different from the mainstream. I bet it is. Scary stuff.
The natives who have their own social services, have the same values as the rest of Canadians.
The only fundamental difference is when it comes to justice, natives are more likely to attempt reconciliation or rehabilitation as opposed to punishment,yet they still acknowledge the need for imprisonment. They do not murder their own children in the name of honor and then refuse to acknowledge their existence or give them so much as a grave-marker.
I'm Hindu and actually there have been a few hindu and sikh honour killings in Canada in the 40 years I've lived here. They are fewer in number than the muslim ones. I believe Robert Spencer stated that 91% of honour killings are done by muslims.
I posted on this site, a number of weeks ago, that I complained to the CBC ombudsman -- that the CBC National refused to air stories on the trial, during the first two weeks of the trial when the prosecution laid out the damning evidence. The pro-Musllim CBC sent a reporter (Dan Halton) to cover the story, but during the first two weeks the CBC National only aired two of his stories. The left-wing CTV national news show aired roughly seven or eight stories during this critical period. After the defence started its case, the CBC aired more stories (and then Dan Halton like others spoke against the bizzare defence).
One point left off of this thread -- and I agree with the sentiments on this thread -- is the one Islamist fellow who heckled the prosecutor as he spoke outside after the crowd. He was booed by the others in the crowd -- and they cheered the prosecutor -- while police husstled the Islamist creep away. The media downplated this incident, but it shows that the Shafia murderers have some support in the Muslim community.
Off topic: as a student at Queens U. from 1981-85, I used to walk past the front of that courthouse -- where the heckling incident took place -- to and from school, to the bars on Princess Street.
Glad to hear that you complained to the CBC ombudsman about the lack of prosecution coverage - kudos.
The CBC obviously buys into it's own propaganda propagated via Little Mosque on the Prairie. Did you know they sell that program for a mere $35 an episode and they still have no buyers - they couldn't give that program away.
If muslims want to claim both,that "honour killings, "are not Islamic", and that an Islamic Social Services would be better able to prevent future atrocities, they will have to explain Islam's glaring inability to eradicate honour killings after hundreds of years of opportunity. Failure to do so to this point is possibly Islam's greatest failure.
"Would there have been such a hullabaloo about this case if this had been non-immigrant, non-Afghani, non- Muslim people..."you mean like the never-ending paul bernardo media chumfest?
Ooops!
And the Pickton case which is still getting lots of coverage.
Though the media seems to have forgotten the Tori Stafford case.
Islam does NOT promote such behavior, but it certainly does nothing to prevent it. If Shafia were back in Afghanistan, (Predominantly Muslim) he would simply pay 2 cows, a chicken & a goat to the local Imam & he would be free to go about his business. The son or wife would never be called to justice over this heinous act. After all, a woman’s word is only worth ½ that of a man. A dead woman’s word, even less.Muslim clerics control Islamic thinking through censorship. This robs individual Muslims from expanding their intellect and condemns them to worldwide ignorance. It is that ignorance that allows this barbarism, not seen elsewhere, to flourish. If Muslims were allowed to think for themselves there would be no need for the intervention of Muslim clerics. (Imams)That would raise the level of intellect in the Muslim community and make it a contributor to the betterment of mankind. Perhaps also putting an end to this despicable behavior.If honor is cause for taking a life, let it be your own damn life you muslim cowards!
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